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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

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    Another reason Bush was a better President

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

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    Another reason Bush was a better President
    thought i was being ignored? lol

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

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    TARP had nothing to do with defense, that is another issue completely although since this thread is a comparison between Bush and Obama, I don't recall Bush suing a sovereign state for defending itself like Obama did. Another reason that Bush was a better President than Obama is.
    so says you, you also said obama didn't inherit tarp before you said he did.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

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    so says you, you also said obama didn't inherit tarp before you said he did.
    What are you talking about? Obama said he inherited a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit and that is a lie, period. Deficits are yearly and the fiscal year runs from October to September. GW Bush was in office October 1, 2008 until January 20, 2009 so in four months he, according to Obama created a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit. That is totally impossible.

    Now let me educate you. TARP was the Toxic Asset Relief Program designed to bailout the banks. It wasn't a stimulus plan, that is the Obama 862 billion dollar plan signed in February 2009.

    TARP was 700 billion dollars of which Bush spent 350 billion and left 350 billion for Obama. To date there still is about 200 billion dollars that hasn't been spent so the total cost of TARP was approximately 500 billion dollars. Banks started paying back TARP in fiscal year 2009 and much of that 500 billion was paid back. Instead of paying back the taxpayers, Obama held the money and no one knows what he has done with it thus most of the 350 billion which Bush spent was paid back. Get it yet?

    Obama lied again. Had Obama done what he should have done, paid down the deficit with the TARP payback Bush wouldn't have had any deficit from the TARP program. Instead Obama wanted the issue and the minions of supporters bought the message of the inherited deficit which is not only impossible but a lie.

    Clear yet?

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What are you talking about? Obama said he inherited a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit and that is a lie, period. Deficits are yearly and the fiscal year runs from October to September. GW Bush was in office October 1, 2008 until January 20, 2009 so in four months he, according to Obama created a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit. That is totally impossible.

    Now let me educate you. TARP was the Toxic Asset Relief Program designed to bailout the banks. It wasn't a stimulus plan, that is the Obama 862 billion dollar plan signed in February 2009.

    TARP was 700 billion dollars of which Bush spent 350 billion and left 350 billion for Obama. To date there still is about 200 billion dollars that hasn't been spent so the total cost of TARP was approximately 500 billion dollars. Banks started paying back TARP in fiscal year 2009 and much of that 500 billion was paid back. Instead of paying back the taxpayers, Obama held the money and no one knows what he has done with it thus most of the 350 billion which Bush spent was paid back. Get it yet?

    Obama lied again. Had Obama done what he should have done, paid down the deficit with the TARP payback Bush wouldn't have had any deficit from the TARP program. Instead Obama wanted the issue and the minions of supporters bought the message of the inherited deficit which is not only impossible but a lie.

    Clear yet?
    of course obama lies ALL politicians lie that is what they do but when bush lied our soldiers died. you said "where did the money go?" if that is YOUR concern then you should look at the place where the vast majority of the deficit comes from namely the defense budget and then tell ME "where did the money go?" when we have 16 million illegals in this country.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by majora$$hole View Post
    of course obama lies ALL politicians lie that is what they do but when bush lied our soldiers died. you said "where did the money go?" if that is YOUR concern then you should look at the place where the vast majority of the deficit comes from namely the defense budget and then tell ME "where did the money go?" when we have 16 million illegals in this country.
    You really don't have a clue and have never looked at the budget of the United States. Suggest you go to the U.S. Treasury Site and look at the line items in the budget. Educate yourself.

    This thread is about comparing Bush to Obama. You want a bash Bush thread create one and I will be happy to debate you on the facts. Problem is too many people buy into an ideology and ignore the actual facts. History will judge Bush a lot differently than you and the others here that have Bush Derangement Syndrome.

    Facts are something liberals do not want to address. I gave you the facts which of course you ignored

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You really don't have a clue and have never looked at the budget of the United States. Suggest you go to the U.S. Treasury Site and look at the line items in the budget. Educate yourself.

    This thread is about comparing Bush to Obama. You want a bash Bush thread create one and I will be happy to debate you on the facts. Problem is too many people buy into an ideology and ignore the actual facts. History will judge Bush a lot differently than you and the others here that have Bush Derangement Syndrome.

    Facts are something liberals do not want to address. I gave you the facts which of course you ignored
    if you didn't notice i am a equal opportunity basher i bashed obama also. and FACTS are something conservitives are lacking as well. your street seems to only go in one direction. i don't need to go to the u.s. treasury site to see lie just like the politicians i just need to look at what is happening in the world to see where the money didn't go. i have already answered the thread by saying it does not matter weather the president has a D or an R on his forehead people with FAR more power than they have are REALLY running the show. so obama and bush are the same, puppets.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by majora$$hole View Post
    if you didn't notice i am a equal opportunity basher i bashed obama also. and FACTS are something conservitives are lacking as well. your street seems to only go in one direction. i don't need to go to the u.s. treasury site to see lie just like the politicians i just need to look at what is happening in the world to see where the money didn't go. i have already answered the thread by saying it does not matter weather the president has a D or an R on his forehead people with FAR more power than they have are REALLY running the show. so obama and bush are the same, puppets.
    Watch out for those black helicopters! Like it or not, you haven't a clue. the U.S. Treasury is the checkbook of the United States and the keeper of the Budget. In that budget there are line items and you blame the Defense Dept as the reason for the deficits we have. That is idiotic, the defense dept. isn't even the largest budget item and amounts to a little less than 1/6th of the budget. How can one line item that constitutes between 600-700 billion of the 3.8 trillion dollar budget be the cause of the 1.29 trillion dollar deficit we had last year? If the entire defense budget was eliminated the deficit would have been over 600 billion dollars and Congress would violate the basic principle of Defense as defined in the Constitution.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It isn't a game show and no one has to guess at the cost. It is there for all to see but then most liberals don't want to confront the issue and prefer instead to buy what they are told from leftwing sites. Once the number is posted I will show how ridiculous their argument is. Liberals want to blame deficits on tax cuts meaning that tax cuts are an expense to the govt. which is total bs.
    I have some numbers from the war.

    American Deaths Total In Combat
    Since war began (3/19/03): 4426 3496
    Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03) 4287 3388
    Since Handover (6/29/04): 3567 2863
    Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 198 91

    Its not all about the money. President Obama has not started any wars.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    I have some numbers from the war.

    American Deaths Total In Combat
    Since war began (3/19/03): 4426 3496
    Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03) 4287 3388
    Since Handover (6/29/04): 3567 2863
    Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 198 91

    Its not all about the money. President Obama has not started any wars.
    Neither did President Bush, we were attacked and instead of chasing terrorists through the mountains of Afghanistan like the Russians did and lost, we drew them to Iraq and destroyed most of their leadership. It is about national security as that is the role of the Federal Govt. Barack Obama is no supporter of the Constitution and thus no friend of any Libertarian.

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