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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Well even that would be hard to do because they are two different crises. If you wanted to compare the two Presidents on something you could do it on handling the Afghanistan War. But like I said earlier to be honest about it you would first have to let President Obama leave office.
    No I would say Obama has shown plenty and it is not good. He has to this point failed

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No I would say Obama has shown plenty and it is not good. He has to this point failed
    Not saying he has done well. I am saying it is dishonest to compare 9/11 to the economic downturn.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    You can, but it would not be very academically honest. If I tried to change my senior thesis topic to this I would have the entire PO department on my ass for doing something like this. I can pretty much hear my advisor saying now, "You never know if something like 9/11 will happen to President Obama which can shift the way the entire country feels about him."
    We're trying to assess the way the entire country feels about him now. What may or may not happen in the future is irrelevant to current attitudes. All this poll does is ask, "given what you know about Bush and what you know about Obama, who is a better president."

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Obama has already been nominated the 15th best president. Ranking 24 places higher than Bush.

    President Bush by far did the worst job as president than any one else has in a long while. He is the reason we are in this current crisis, along with everyone he allowed to have a hand in the 9/11 incident and the "War on Terror".

    If you don't believe this you a fool.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    We're trying to assess the way the entire country feels about him now. What may or may not happen in the future is irrelevant to current attitudes. All this poll does is ask, "given what you know about Bush and what you know about Obama, who is a better president."
    Right, granted I did go a little off topic because I am currently venting (aka drinking) because of my senior thesis. Point is though that both men came into power during two different times. President Bush's first term had the unfortunate action of 9/11 which boosted his polls. And even though President Bush going into his second term was not well liked, he did not walk into the economic mess that President Obama did. And for some reason people though that when President Obama was elected he would some how fix the economy. So, I just don't think you can ask people who is a better president because they had to deal with two different situations. Obviously though, CNN doesn't care what I think about it, but I just feel it is a dishonest poll.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Valentine View Post
    Obama has already been nominated the 15th best president. Ranking 24 places higher than Bush.

    President Bush by far did the worst job as president than any one else has in a long while. He is the reason we are in this current crisis, along with everyone he allowed to have a hand in the 9/11 incident and the "War on Terror".

    If you don't believe this you a fool.
    He shouldn't be nominated for anything because his term isn't over. Hell President Bush still shouldn't be ranked yet because you don't get an honest ranking until at least a decade after their presidency is over.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    So, I just don't think you can ask people who is a better president because they had to deal with two different situations. Obviously though, CNN doesn't care what I think about it, but I just feel it is a dishonest poll.
    No two presidents ever face the same set of situations. It makes comparisons difficult, but people do it all the time. Historians and academic-types do it all the time.

    Of course the poll has little meaning beyond current attitude toward the President. Ask a few days/weeks/months later and you'll see a very different result.

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    Personally, I *HATE* CNN polls, mostly because they try to pass them off as news, often headlining their web site with crap like:

    Economy worst in 200 years
    According to a new CNN poll, people with utterly no knowledge of history and economics have decided that the current economic situation is the worst that has ever existed. The news proves troubling for the President, who has been...


    A bit exaggerated, just to make the point.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    No two presidents ever face the same set of situations. It makes comparisons difficult, but people do it all the time. Historians and academic-types do it all the time.

    Of course the poll has little meaning beyond current attitude toward the President. Ask a few days/weeks/months later and you'll see a very different result.
    Right I agree with that. I think you could compare how President Bush started to handle an economic crisis and how President Obama has handled his. But I don't think you can compare 9/11 and then the economic crisis. They are two very different crises, that was my point.
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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Right I agree with that. I think you could compare how President Bush started to handle an economic crisis and how President Obama has handled his. But I don't think you can compare 9/11 and then the economic crisis. They are two very different crises, that was my point.
    I think you could compare related aspects (e.g. how each involved the public in policy decisions, etc. etc.) but yes, there are going to be components that aren't directly comparable.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Hell yes, Obama is a rank amateur who has no clue what the ***k he's dining. He has made nothing but mistakes from the day he took office with the help of dead peoples votes, and illegals courtesy of ACORN.
    You forgot the other help he had from the MSM and Journolist.
    Catawa is my favorite bleeding heart liberal.
    1/27/12

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