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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You restated it and, apparently, agreed with it.
    Given that, you apparently believe that The Obama is a worse President than GWB.


    I need to educate you on a point of the English language: edicate isn't a word.
    Cry me a river. When I see you making the same comment regarding any number of disrespectful terms used to address/describe GWB, I'll consider granting you a shred of credibility.
    Indeed. Etiquette. My bad spelling haunts me to this day. Whats your excuse for being a spelling Bully.

    No, as a citizen of this country you should pay respect to the office. How can you expect anyone else in the world to respect the United States if its citizens cant even respect it. I have not been disrespectful of President Bush. I just disagree with his policy. I have always been factual and respectul of his title.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Under certain cirumstances. The government already had that power.


    Under certain cirumstances. The government already had that power.

    The only thing the PA did was take power that the government already had - most notably, those used to fight organized crime - and extended them to terroriam.
    The difference is due recourse.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    Im confused. Do you or do you not understand what the Patriot act is. What you challenge me to find is EXACTLY what the patriot act did. It allows the government to detain you without cause. It allows them to wire tap your phone without a warrent.

    There are hundreds of documented accounts of people who have been arrested under the patriot act.
    i totally understand what the Patriot Act is but apparently you don't. Tell me when the first American has their rights taken away as you described so until that happens you have lost nothing. It does not allow the detaining of ANY AMERICAN without cause and you should know that. So if there are hundreds of documented accounts of Americans who have been arrested under Patriot Act it shouldn't be a problem to name a few.

    You and people like you give the Libertarian title a bad rap.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    The difference is due recourse.
    You mean due process?
    Its exactly the same in both regards. The only thnt the PA did was took existing powers and extend them to a new subject area.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Just so we're clear -- you agree that GWB was a better President that Tbe Obama. Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    Indeed. Etiquette. My bad spelling haunts me to this day. Whats your excuse for being a spelling Bully.
    You decided it was necessary to educate me, I returned the favor.

    No, as a citizen of this country you should pay respect to the office.
    When I see you making the same comment regarding any number of disrespectful terms used to address/describe GWB, I'll consider granting you a shred of credibility

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    i totally understand what the Patriot Act is but apparently you don't. Tell me when the first American has their rights taken away as you described so until that happens you have lost nothing. It does not allow the detaining of ANY AMERICAN without cause and you should know that. So if there are hundreds of documented accounts of Americans who have been arrested under Patriot Act it shouldn't be a problem to name a few.

    You and people like you give the Libertarian title a bad rap.
    Wait, I have to prove that it has been used before you will agree that it has happened. That until it is carried out it is no threat. I have lost nothing. Are you kidding.

    Why the insult at the end. Why take it there. Why the personal attack. You want to tell "Your mama" jokes next.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    Wait, I have to prove that it has been used before you will agree that it has happened. That until it is carried out it is no threat. I have lost nothing. Are you kidding.

    Why the insult at the end. Why take it there. Why the personal attack. You want to tell "Your mama" jokes next.
    Libertarians want to be left alone, so be it.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Just so we're clear -- you agree that GWB was a better President that Tbe Obama. Thank you.


    You decided it was necessary to educate me, I returned the favor.


    When I see you making the same comment regarding any number of disrespectful terms used to address/describe GWB, I'll consider granting you a shred of credibility
    Exactly what disrespectful terms did I use. Please link.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

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    Actually that isn't true, it was a 50-50 Senate the first two years and totally Democrat the last 2 years.
    Which leaves four years, of an eight year presidency of solid republican majority to wreck an economy. almost successfully, I might add.


    Fact remains from 2003 to 2007 the economy was booming, massive job creation and strong economic growth, BEA.gov and BLS.gov
    Nothing like cherry-picking stats, in the fall of a mid-term year eh? The fall air is fresh with the pungent smell of elephant ****. Why do you ignore not only the fact that from “Feb 2001”to”Aug 2003” , “1017000” jobs were lost under Bush? "1017000" JOBS LOST!!!…worse than Hoover!!

    According to what I have read, the Gov. uses two different methods to measure employment. The payroll survey, which has the official figures, that are reported on, or near the first, of the month, and the household survey, which surveys 60,000 households per month.

    Which survey are touting? Bear in mind that Bureau of Labor Statistics, CBO and the President’s Council of Economic Advisers, all agree that the larger survey gives a better measure of employment.



    Got to love the party of "n" which seems to be liberal talking points. There was total control of the Congress from 2009-2010 and look at the results. Now I understand why you want to divert from them but the truth is you cannot run from the actual facts.
    What facts have you presented? You can hardly compare a Presidency of less than two years to one of eight years.



    My hero isn't on the ballot this year but the Obama agenda is. The facts are for all to see but you choose to ignore them. Fact, over 16 million unemployed Americans today up 4 million from when he took office, over 3 trillion added to the debt, and 1.6% economic growth. You ought to worry more about what is going on now vs. what you think went on back in the 80's. The actual facts aren't friendly to you.
    One big fact you have overlooked, is the bush and the republican party’s legacy is UNFUNDED tax cuts for the rich and two wars=Near economic collapse.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    Exactly what disrespectful terms did I use. Please link.
    I said:
    When I see you making the same comment regarding any number of disrespectful terms used to address/describe GWB, I'll consider granting you a shred of credibility
    I meant comments by others, not you.

    But, glad to see you agree that GWB was a better President than The Obama.

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