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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    What were the irrputable harms that President Obama has done. Im not a fan and did not vote for him. Im just curious.
    3 trillion added to the debt getting it closer to 100% of GDP, Unfunded mandates to the states for Obamacare, suing a sovereign state trying to defend itself, appeasement of our enemies, bailout of union pensions that taxpayers have to fund, massive expansion of the size and scope of the Federal Govt, creation of a record number of Czars, massive intrusion into the private sector. Want me to go on?

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Bush created 3 million jobs in his 8 years as president.

    By WSJ Staff
    President George W. Bush entered office in 2001 just as a recession was starting, and is preparing to leave in the middle of a long one. Thatís almost 22 months of recession during his 96 months in office.

    His job-creation record wonít look much better. The Bush administration created about three million jobs (net) over its eight years, a fraction of the 23 million jobs created under President Bill Clintonís administration and only slightly better than President George H.W. Bush did in his four years in office.
    Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ


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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Bush created 3 million jobs in his 8 years as president.



    Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ
    Bush is no longer in office, Obama wanted the job and ran for it instead of doing his job as Senator. His record is worse than Bush's and worse than any President in history one year after a recession ended. It is the Obama record that is the issue, not Bush's.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    3 trillion added to the debt getting it closer to 100% of GDP, Unfunded mandates to the states for Obamacare, suing a sovereign state trying to defend itself, appeasement of our enemies, bailout of union pensions that taxpayers have to fund, massive expansion of the size and scope of the Federal Govt, creation of a record number of Czars, massive intrusion into the private sector. Want me to go on?
    I thought we just agreed that it was 1.3 Trillion. Where did we get the other 1.7 trillion.

    I am not a fan of the new healthcare that was passed but healthcare was broken. What would you have done?

    I agree with Arizona

    Not sure what appeasments you are talking about but not sure how that effects the economy.

    I do not agree with any of the bail outs.

    What is wrong with czars and how does that cause issues with the economy.

    What intrusions into the private sector are you speaking about.

    We can start here.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Bush created 3 million jobs in his 8 years as president.



    Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ
    Interesting that BLS gives a different picture. Here are the employment numbers from BLS for December each year. Looks to me like there were 8.5 million more employed in December 2007 than there was in December 2000. Looks to me like Obama has done a great job getting us back to 2000 levels.

    From BLS, employment in December each year. You really ought to become more familar with the site if you care anything about your credibility.

    Year Dec
    2000 137614
    2001 136047
    2002 136426
    2003 138411
    2004 140125
    2005 142752
    2006 145914
    2007 146173
    2008 143188
    2009 137792
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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    I thought we just agreed that it was 1.3 Trillion. Where did we get the other 1.7 trillion.

    I am not a fan of the new healthcare that was passed but healthcare was broken. What would you have done?

    I agree with Arizona

    Not sure what appeasments you are talking about but not sure how that effects the economy.

    I do not agree with any of the bail outs.

    What is wrong with czars and how does that cause issues with the economy.

    What intrusions into the private sector are you speaking about.

    We can start here.
    Two year deficits total over 3 trillion dollars, Debt was 10.5 trillion when Bush left office, it is almost 14 trillion now.

    What I have provided tax incentives for people to purchase their own health care

    Iran and North Korea are emboldened and our empty suit President isn't addressing this issue. Problems in the region will indeed affect our economy.

    Czars are unelected, non controllable bureaucrats telling private business what they can and cannot do. Let the market work and enforce existing laws.

    I don't agree with the bailouts either but it was done.

    forcing people to buy healthcare and businesses to offer it is intrusion into private business. It isn't the government's business what private industry does as long as it is legal. These are unfunded mandates to private business driving up costs.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Interesting that BLS gives a different picture. Here are the employment numbers from BLS for December each year. Looks to me like there were 8.5 million more employed in December 2008 than there was in December 2000. Looks to me like Obama has done a great job getting us back to 2000 levels.

    From BLS, employment in December each year. You really ought to become more familar with the site if you care anything about your credibility.

    Year Dec
    2000 137614
    2001 136047
    2002 136426
    2003 138411
    2004 140125
    2005 142752
    2006 145914
    2007 146173
    2008 143188
    2009 137792
    My link was from the Wall Street Journal, I think they have a better handle on the data as you seem to have. I suspect there is some analysis to be done rather than looking at raw data as you have done. I think thats true of all the numbers you have posted over the months.

    The link that I posted contains a table that can be sorted by clicking on the column head.


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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    My link was from the Wall Street Journal, I think they have a better handle on the data as you seem to have. I suspect there is some analysis to be done rather than looking at raw data as you have done. I think thats true of all the numbers you have posted over the months.

    The link that I posted contains a table that can be sorted by clicking on the column head.
    Really? The Wall Street Journal is the keeper of employment and unemployment data? Interesting, cite your source? Have you told the govt. yet that they no longer need the Bureau of Labor Statistics?

    Now what does any of this have to do with the present? How is that hope and change working out for you? 16 million unemployed Americans, 4 million less employed today than when he took office( guess the population dropped, right?)

    Please name for me any other President that one year after a recession ended had these kind of unemployment numbers? Unemployment should be dropping but isn't. Economic growth should be greater but it isn't. Hard for you to admit that you were duped by this empty suit, isn't it?

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Two year deficits total over 3 trillion dollars, Debt was 10.5 trillion when Bush left office, it is almost 14 trillion now.

    What I have provided tax incentives for people to purchase their own health care

    Iran and North Korea are emboldened and our empty suit President isn't addressing this issue. Problems in the region will indeed affect our economy.

    Czars are unelected, non controllable bureaucrats telling private business what they can and cannot do. Let the market work and enforce existing laws.

    I don't agree with the bailouts either but it was done.

    forcing people to buy healthcare and businesses to offer it is intrusion into private business. It isn't the government's business what private industry does as long as it is legal. These are unfunded mandates to private business driving up costs.
    I wont argue the debt. It makes me upset that both the Democrats and Republicans have spent out of control

    The question I think needs to be asked is if Health Care is something that every citizen should have or is it only for those who can afford it.

    Iran and NK are run by crazy people. You cant reason with crazy people.

    You do remember who started the whole Czar thing right.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    I wont argue the debt. It makes me upset that both the Democrats and Republicans have spent out of control

    The question I think needs to be asked is if Health Care is something that every citizen should have or is it only for those who can afford it.

    Iran and NK are run by crazy people. You cant reason with crazy people.

    You do remember who started the whole Czar thing right.
    Not sure the purpose of continuing this but the thread topic is Wash Bush a better President than Obama and based upon the actual Bush results vs. the Obama results to date my answer stands, yes, he was a better President. Obama has dug such a deep hole that it will be impossible for him to dig his way out especially with his ideology. His goal was to change this country into a European economic model and he is well on his way of doing that as he works towards cradle to grave coverage. He is going to have to drastically change his policies to focus on the private sector and i don't think he is capable of doing that. Ideologues never change

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