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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    Do you think President Bush was a good president.
    You continue to avoid the point. I'll take that as a concession of same.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

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    Obama is a gigantic glittering failure of monstrous proportions.
    Nice point. . Wait. You didnt have one.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You continue to avoid the point. I'll take that as a concession of same.
    So you refuse to say if you think President Bush was a good president or not in a forum discussion about weather he is or not. Thats odd.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    Do you think President Bush was a good president.
    Now I recognize I wasn't asked the question but like all Presidents Bush made some mistakes but overall the results say yes, he was a good President. He did something that others haven't done, operated out of principle, pride and respect for this country, and a true belief that the role of the President was to defend this nation.

    Unless you truly research non partisan sites to get the facts about the Bush Presidency you aren't going to get the truth about what he accomplished. History will judge Bush on factual results not personal opinions of others.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

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    Not sure where you get your information but apparently you buy what you are told instead of doing some research. Do you realize that your dollars aren't going to big business or any other business? It is all about tax credits coming off the income that businesses have earned not checks from the Treasury to businesses. Do you realize that 80% of the businesses in this country aren't BIG Business? Those are the job creators but when you attack business in general it isn't the big businesses getting hurt, it is the smaller businesses.
    Corn Subsidies 1995 to 2009 : 245 Billion
    Reslut: Family farmers going out of business and Big Business (e.g. Monsanto) making 90% of the profit.

    Oil Subsides from 2002 to 2008: 72 Billion
    Result: Big oil made record profits.

    Thats over 300Billion and I have only started. Do your research and you will be just as angry over what has been stolen by big business. And how.

    Hey, how about Wal-Mart. Guess who their health insurance company is. . . YOU.

    Considering I own two businesses, yes I do realize that 80% of business is not considered Big Business. Those are of course fuzzy numbers but thats another conversation. I also realize that Big Business gets breaks the rest of us dont. I also am heavily invovled in financing business loans. I consider my experience more than enough to make me an expert in small business.

    So you want to on a runway for 24hrs without a break. Not me. So the gift card you purchase with cash, if not used should go bad like produce. Not me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Obama's fiscal policy started with the stimulus in February 2009. He has put Bush spending on steroids and with what results? Results matter, not rhetoric and Obama's results speak volumes. According to NBER the recession ended in June 2009 yet in 2010 economic growth is lower than 2009 and unemployment is higher each month vs. 2009. How do you explain that.
    I repeat myself. I did not agree when President bush spent Trillions. I dont agree when President Obama spends Trillions. My message is consistant. Did you approve of the trillions President Bush spent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You aren't saying it but Obama did, how did Obama inherit a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit for a fiscal year that ended in September 2009, 8 months AFTER he took office. Point being he added to the Bush budgets and thus is responsible for that deficit just like Bush therefore he cannot inherit what he helped create.
    I dont approve of what both of them have done. Im not a Republican or a Democrat. I think both parties are to blame. I just dont beleive you can say its President Obamas fault.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Now I recognize I wasn't asked the question but like all Presidents Bush made some mistakes but overall the results say yes, he was a good President. He did something that others haven't done, operated out of principle, pride and respect for this country, and a true belief that the role of the President was to defend this nation.

    Unless you truly research non partisan sites to get the facts about the Bush Presidency you aren't going to get the truth about what he accomplished. History will judge Bush on factual results not personal opinions of others.
    Thank you. I dont expect an answer from Gooberman

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    Do you think President Bush was a good president.
    I don't know what you mean by "good", but I do know Bush was qualified to be President by governing a state with an economy larger than most nations. That more than makes Bush more qualified than Obama to even be President. Obama was not elected for his experience. Obama was elected for his promises. Obama promised us more cooperation, less partisanship, and transparency in Washington. He lied.
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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    =ender1;1059058811]Corn Subsidies 1995 to 2009 : 245 Billion
    Reslut: Family farmers going out of business and Big Business (e.g. Monsanto) making 90% of the profit.
    1995-2009? That is Clinton, Bush, and Obama
    How many family farmers went out of business?
    What is your problem with corporate profits? Where do those profits go?

    Oil Subsides from 2002 to 2008: 72 Billion
    Result: Big oil made record profits.
    Oil subsidies? You mean oil companies keeping more of what they earn? Again, what is your problem with corporate profits. How many seniors and others invested in oil companies living off dividends? Think there would be dividends or employees without profits? Think that charities would benefit without profits?

    Thats over 300Billion and I have only started. Do your research and you will be just as angry over what has been stolen by big business. And how.
    What exactly did big business take from you or your family? If you want to get upset, get upset over the waste, fraud, abuse, and corruption of a 3.8 TRILLION dollar federal govt.

    Hey, how about Wal-Mart. Guess who their health insurance company is. . . YOU.
    Wal-Mart employs a lot of people, promotes from within, and has made a lot of people quite wealthy. How many people have the govt. made wealthy?

    Considering I own two businesses, yes I do realize that 80% of business is not considered Big Business. Those are of course fuzzy numbers but thats another conversation. I also realize that Big Business gets breaks the rest of us dont. I also am heavily invovled in financing business loans. I consider my experience more than enough to make me an expert in small business.
    You seem very concerned about business keeping more of what it earns as if the govt. spends that money wisely. Why aren't you more concerned about how your tax dollars are spent vs. what corporations do with their income. You can choose to purchase from a corporation but not whether or not you pay to the govt.

    I normally don't see business people condemning what other businesses make or do with their money. You seem to have an anti business bias and the question is why?


    So you want to on a runway for 24hrs without a break. Not me. So the gift card you purchase with cash, if not used should go bad like produce. Not me.
    I want a growing thriving economy and the 16 million unemployed Americans put back to work. Unemployment has increased every month of 2010 vs. 2009, the year the recession ended. Sorry, cannot get to excited about the regulations that Obama passed that make you feel good especially since most of those regulations were already on the books prior to Obama. As for gift cards, why give them in the first place. How does the Obama regulations on gift cards affect the economy, jobs, and economic growth?


    I repeat myself. I did not agree when President bush spent Trillions. I dont agree when President Obama spends Trillions. My message is consistant. Did you approve of the trillions President Bush spent?
    No, I didn't approve of all the money Bush spent but Bush never had trillion dollar deficits. My message also has been consistent, Bush spent too much with the help of Congress and Obama has put Bush spending on steroids. Democrats have controlled the purse strings since January 2007 and we are now seeing what a Democrat Congress and President are doing to spending.


    I dont approve of what both of them have done. Im not a Republican or a Democrat. I think both parties are to blame. I just dont beleive you can say its President Obamas fault.
    What is going on right now is totally and completely Obama's fault. He has a Democrat Congress and is implementing his entire economic agenda. Many people blame Bush while ignoring Congressional duties and responsibilities. GW Bush could do nothing in 2007-2008 without Democrat support.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    1995-2009? That is Clinton, Bush, and Obama
    How many family farmers went out of business?
    What is your problem with corporate profits? Where do those profits go?
    They go to huge corporate saleries and lobbiest who purchase political seats. Same for the oil companies. What you thought it ends up in the pockets of share holders.
    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What exactly did big business take from you or your family? If you want to get upset, get upset over the waste, fraud, abuse, and corruption of a 3.8 TRILLION dollar federal govt.
    Thats no different than saying what does welfare take from you. Its lowers our tax income so thats less money we have to spend on other things. Maybe even why MY taxes are going up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wal-Mart employs a lot of people, promotes from within, and has made a lot of people quite wealthy. How many people have the govt. made wealthy?.
    If your fine paying for their health care then fine. You pay it. I do not want to pay for Wal-Marts health care. It has nothing to do with somone making money. It has to do with them paying low saleries to the point where the only affordable health care is govt sponcered health care.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You seem very concerned about business keeping more of what it earns as if the govt. spends that money wisely. Why aren't you more concerned about how your tax dollars are spent vs. what corporations do with their income. You can choose to purchase from a corporation but not whether or not you pay to the govt. ?.
    NO NO NO. I am 100% all for reducing what the government spends I keep repeating that. I think its the more important issue. Are you actually reading my posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I normally don't see business people condemning what other businesses make or do with their money. You seem to have an anti business bias and the question is why?
    No. Again, Small business good. . Big Business Bad.




    I want a growing thriving economy and the 16 million unemployed Americans put back to work. Unemployment has increased every month of 2010 vs. 2009, the year the recession ended. Sorry, cannot get to excited about the regulations that Obama passed that make you feel good especially since most of those regulations were already on the books prior to Obama. As for gift cards, why give them in the first place. How does the Obama regulations on gift cards affect the economy, jobs, and economic growth?




    No, I didn't approve of all the money Bush spent but Bush never had trillion dollar deficits. My message also has been consistent, Bush spent too much with the help of Congress and Obama has put Bush spending on steroids. Democrats have controlled the purse strings since January 2007 and we are now seeing what a Democrat Congress and President are doing to spending.




    What is going on right now is totally and completely Obama's fault. He has a Democrat Congress and is implementing his entire economic agenda. Many people blame Bush while ignoring Congressional duties and responsibilities. GW Bush could do nothing in 2007-2008 without Democrat support.[/QUOTE]

    Im not sure your actually reading my posts. You keep arguing with me because you think I want Bigger Government and approve of President Obamas budget. Please be clear. I DO NOT WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO SPEND MY MONEY.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama?

    I want a growing thriving economy and the 16 million unemployed Americans put back to work. Unemployment has increased every month of 2010 vs. 2009, the year the recession ended. Sorry, cannot get to excited about the regulations that Obama passed that make you feel good especially since most of those regulations were already on the books prior to Obama. As for gift cards, why give them in the first place. How does the Obama regulations on gift cards affect the economy, jobs, and economic growth?




    No, I didn't approve of all the money Bush spent but Bush never had trillion dollar deficits. My message also has been consistent, Bush spent too much with the help of Congress and Obama has put Bush spending on steroids. Democrats have controlled the purse strings since January 2007 and we are now seeing what a Democrat Congress and President are doing to spending.




    What is going on right now is totally and completely Obama's fault. He has a Democrat Congress and is implementing his entire economic agenda. Many people blame Bush while ignoring Congressional duties and responsibilities. GW Bush could do nothing in 2007-2008 without Democrat support.[/QUOTE]

    Im not sure your actually reading my posts. You keep arguing with me because you think I want Bigger Government and approve of President Obamas budget. Please be clear. I DO NOT WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO SPEND MY MONEY.



    Please disregard this last part.

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