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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Okay fine Mr. penny wise pound foolish.
    Growing up, did anyone ever teach you personal responsibility? Do you expect me to pay for your insurance? I don't expect you to pay for mine. Obamacare is a job killer and an attempt to create greater govt. control by eventually getting to the single payer system. 700,000 people are about to lose their Medicare due to companies dropping the service thanks to Obamacare yet for some reason the Obama supporters don't have a problem with that. I give too many the benefit of doubt that they believe in free enterprise and capitalism when the reality is most are closet socialists looking for greater govt. control of their lives. If I were you I would move to a state more in line with the way you think because that certainly isn't TX.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

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    Growing up, did anyone ever teach you personal responsibility? Do you expect me to pay for your insurance?

    Hello genius what do you think insurance is? You pay into pool if you happen to get sick the pool pays.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Hello genius what do you think insurance is? You pay into pool if you happen to get sick the pool pays.
    I choose not to be in your insurance pool, I choose where to spend my money on insurance, it isn't the government's role to require someone to buy insurance. If someone chooses not to purchase insurance and something happens, that is the consequences of a poor personal choice. You apparently don't understand that concept.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

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    I choose not to be in your insurance pool, I choose where to spend my money on insurance, it isn't the government's role to require someone to buy insurance. If someone chooses not to purchase insurance and something happens, that is the consequences of a poor personal choice. You apparently don't understand that concept.

    You apparently don't know what insurance is.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    You apparently don't know what insurance is.
    You are right, I only have had insurance for over 40 years, employed thousands, offered insurance to all, dealt with insurance companies, negotiated group rates but apparently I don't know anything about insurance.

    Now what does any of this have to do with the thread topic? Obamacare is a job killer as evidenced by the business reaction but apparently you want to make this about you. California needs a few more just like you so consider the move.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

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    You are right, I only have had insurance for over 40 years, employed thousands, offered insurance to all, dealt with insurance companies, negotiated group rates but apparently I don't know anything about insurance.

    Now what does any of this have to do with the thread topic? Obamacare is a job killer as evidenced by the business reaction but apparently you want to make this about you. California needs a few more just like you so consider the move.

    I'm glad you are such a wonderment in your own world.

    /plonk

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I'm glad you are such a wonderment in your own world.

    /plonk
    Looks like I live in the real world, the American people spoke on November 2 and didn't like Obamacare and the fact that the Obama economy has lost 4 million jobs since he took office. Welcome to the real world where the Obama Administration cannot tell the truth on any issue.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, diseases like Polio are not local problems as they affect everyone. Obamacare has nothing to do with diseases like polio so let's really admit who is building the strawman here. Now you answer the question what does Polio have to do with Obamacare?

    Why do you insist on wanting to talk about Obamacare with someone that stated in post #423 that he thought Obamacare was a “2000 thousand plus page monstrosity “?

    The only difference I can see between you and I on healthcare, is that your OK with what we have now and i,m not.

    You’re OK with a system that has a annual rate increase a almost ten % per year. Eating 16% of GDP today, which will be 31% in 25 years.

    You’re OK with having 50% of our population either uninsured, or underinsured, despite the fact that we spend more on healthcare than any other nation in the world.

    You’re OK with a life expectancy that lags the rest of the industrialized world, including that commie nation 90 miles south of Miami.

    You’re OK having almost 50 thousand of your fellow countrymen/woman dying every year due to lack of adequate healthcare.

    So tell me conservative, with all of the above, how can our cash starved states cure the problem of healthcare?
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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

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    Why do you insist on wanting to talk about Obamacare with someone that stated in post #423 that he thought Obamacare was a “2000 thousand plus page monstrosity “?

    The only difference I can see between you and I on healthcare, is that your OK with what we have now and i,m not.

    You’re OK with a system that has a annual rate increase a almost ten % per year. Eating 16% of GDP today, which will be 31% in 25 years.

    You’re OK with having 50% of our population either uninsured, or underinsured, despite the fact that we spend more on healthcare than any other nation in the world.

    You’re OK with a life expectancy that lags the rest of the industrialized world, including that commie nation 90 miles south of Miami.

    You’re OK having almost 50 thousand of your fellow countrymen/woman dying every year due to lack of adequate healthcare.

    So tell me conservative, with all of the above, how can our cash starved states cure the problem of healthcare?
    Unlike you, I seem to understand personal responsibility and understand that cash starved states have to make tough choices. I further understand that unfunded mandates come from the Federal Govt. with strings attached and that isn't good for the state taxpayers. You, on the other hand, don't seem to understand personal responsibilities, unfunded mandates, and the role of the Federal and state governments.

    I also understand that life expectancy in this country has nothing to do with who has or doesn't have health care, it is about choices one makes on what they eat, what they drink, how they exercise or if they don't exercise at all. We live in a country where people have more choices than anyplace else in the world. Some choose wisely whereas others don't. It isn't the government's responsibility to regulate personal choice.

    You come up with some wild numbers but ignore the main issue, is health insurance a personal or govt. responsibility. None of what you claim can be proven but that doesn't mean you will change.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

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    Unlike you, I seem to understand personal responsibility and understand that cash starved states have to make tough choices. I further understand that unfunded mandates come from the Federal Govt. with strings attached and that isn't good for the state taxpayers. You, on the other hand, don't seem to understand personal responsibilities, unfunded mandates, and the role of the Federal and state governments.
    I understand unfunded mandates pretty well,such has unfounded tax cuts. You must have forgotten where I showed you what damage unfunded mandates did to the national debt, between the years of 2001-2008. It was here.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...-poor-121.html

    in post #1207.unlike you, I provide links.

    I also understand that life expectancy in this country has nothing to do with who has or doesn't have health care, it is about choices one makes on what they eat, what they drink, how they exercise or if they don't exercise at all.

    "Life expectancy has nothing to do with health care?" GOOD GRIEF MAN, what planet are you from? Oh, I forgot you live in Texas, with its 4,675 deaths due to lack of health insurance per year. Second only to Calyfornia with its 5,302 deaths due to lack of health insurance.



    You come up with some wild numbers but ignore the main issue, is health insurance a personal or govt. responsibility.
    No, the main health issue facing this nation is not health insurance, its HEALTHCARE. Healthcare if not addressed and the cost keeps going as it has in the past, will bankrupt this country. How long do you think that we can have healthcare going up at the rate of almost ten percent a year?

    None of what you claim can be proven but that doesn't mean you will change.

    Says the guy that thinks that “life expectancy in this country has nothing to do with who has or doesn't have health care “.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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