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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    If Republicans win the midterms and have their I think this country will begin to see the exact same hardtimes some European countries are experiencing because their governments were pretty much shut down and government jobs remained the primary economic engine during their recessionary period.

    The evidence that our nation is recoverying from the recession is the fact that private sector jobs are returning...in small quantities, but they are returning. I think you screw that up if you do the level of across-the-board spending cuts Republicans propose. Alot of the federal programs that would be affected are likely private-public jobs. You really don't want to mess with that mix too much.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    66,000 whole new jobs.....
    Care to cite a historical incident of a financial/leverage crisis where private sector jobs bounced back quickly?

    Good luck with that.
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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    You really don't want to mess with that mix too much.
    Which is basically why I think the GOP is not going to make the cuts they are saying they will. It would mean increasing the unemployment rate, costing their voters jobs and making the deficit even larger. It's all fun and games until it's your district they are cutting in. Right now several Republicans are fighting base closures despite billions in cost savings. Vitter came out against Obama's plan to have the private sector take over space deliveries because it would cost his district jobs. Christie in New Jersey reconsidered closing the tunnel project. It would have cost tens of thousands of private sector construction jobs. The GOP is promising all sorts of cuts but I seriously doubt they will cut their own voters' jobs. And for politicians like Boehner and McConnell who aren't interested in leaving their jobs, being responsible for large private sector job cuts is not something they will take sitting down.

    We're going to go back to spend and borrow if the GOP takes Congress. People really need to learn that the GOP is no different from the Dems. I don't get why people are so enthusiastic about this election. By object measures, you should be very disillusioned. Both parties are incompetent. Both spend crazy. Both are looking out for themselves. Neither has any real plan.
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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Care to cite a historical example of a financial/leverage based recession where change in leadership resulted in immediate job gains? Good luck with that.

    You do realize you are cheering for a party that has explicitly argued to cut spending without realizing that will result in job cuts and all of the associated indirect jobs reliant on that spending no? Several towns in Florida were expected to become ghost towns if the Space Shuttle funding was permanently cut. All of the local businesses who relied on those workers were planning for hard times. Tell me, how do you think that cutting spending like that on a national wide basis will result in more jobs? Do you understand the marginal propensity to consume not to mention money velocity? More likely, the GOP will realize this will actually increase unemployment and cost them votes and then decide to go back to the Bush era of spend and borrow. And we'll get the same excrement we got from the GOP in 2003.
    Uh...what? Are you an Obama supporter? The same Obama that killed thousands of NASA jobs?

    What are you even talking about?!?
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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Uh...what? Are you an Obama supporter?
    On some items. Not on others.

    The same Obama that killed thousands of NASA jobs?
    Which was the right thing to do. Vitter was completely full of crap. The free market has shown clear competency in space cargo transporation. Why should we rely on the government to do a job that the free market can do better? Did it cost jobs? Yes. The space capsule program cost jobs. But we didn't need to employ Americans solely to employ Americans. And Vitter was uber-pissed about this. Cuts in MY district? Oh no you didn't. The funny thing is that the GOP bashed Obama for this and then wants to replicate it across the country.

    What are you even talking about?!?
    Something you'd know about if you paid any attention.
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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    If Republicans win the midterms and have their I think this country will begin to see the exact same hardtimes some European countries are experiencing because their governments were pretty much shut down and government jobs remained the primary economic engine during their recessionary period.

    The evidence that our nation is recoverying from the recession is the fact that private sector jobs are returning...in small quantities, but they are returning. I think you screw that up if you do the level of across-the-board spending cuts Republicans propose. Alot of the federal programs that would be affected are likely private-public jobs. You really don't want to mess with that mix too much.
    Government can't create jobs, so how are spending cuts going to kill job growth?
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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    On some items. Not on others.



    Which was the right thing to do. Vitter was completely full of crap. The free market has shown clear competency in space cargo transporation. Why should we rely on the government to do a job that the free market can do better? Did it cost jobs? Yes. The space capsule program cost jobs. But we didn't need to employ Americans solely to employ Americans. And Vitter was uber-pissed about this. Cuts in MY district? Oh no you didn't. The funny thing is that the GOP bashed Obama for this and then wants to replicate it across the country.



    Something you'd know about if you paid any attention.
    I think once you get out into the real world, you'll see how things really work and it's not going to coincide with your Leftist talking points.
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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I think once you get out into the real world, you'll see how things really work and it's not going to coincide with your Leftist talking points.
    Is that the best you got?

    I see you addressed absolutely nothing in my post. Do you reject that Vitter was exceptionally angry over Obama's cuts and plans to use the free market? Do you reject that the free market space companies have shown competency in cargo transportation? If I'm so wrong, why are GOP senators and reps trying to block the closure of unneeded military bases which would save the taxpayers billions? It's because they don't want job losses in their districts and they're okay with sticking taxpayers with the bill.

    You throw that line out alot. And then I explain how the world works to you. And then you run away.
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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

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    apdst; 1059033742]Government can't create jobs,
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    so how are spending cuts going to kill job growth?
    The same Obama that killed thousands of NASA jobs?

    You answered this yourself in post# 24.
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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Apparently he thinks that no one is Congress actually has a job. Or anyone in the military. Or anyone in the NIH. I can keep going. It is amusing when he says that.

    The same Obama that killed thousands of NASA jobs?

    You answered this yourself in post# 24.
    NICE. I didn't catch that.

    And the shutdown of the F-22 Raptor line has reduced job growth as have cuts in the Zumwalt line of destroyers.
    Last edited by obvious Child; 10-11-10 at 12:27 AM.
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