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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You can have all the opinions you want. The left said when Obama was elected he had a mandate because he had a majority of the vote. Now they say this election does not give the GOP a mandate. Shows the hypocrisy and double standard of your democrats brothers.

    As for why this election went to the GOP it was because of Healthcare, the out of control spending and a deficit that is growing faster than anytime in history. Then again most do not like the way it looks we are headed to a socialist police state.

    This election was not just on the fed level but the GOP made great gains in state elections also.
    I don't speak for the left, whoever they are. You're having a discussion with me.

    And like I said, 30 something percent think healthcare and spending went too far. 30 somethign percent think health care reform and spending didn't go far eneough. And 30 something percent think it was just right. So, where's the mandate? Exactly how do you read that?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Nearly four-in-ten (39%) said that reducing the deficit should be the highest priority for the next Congress while nearly as many said spending to create jobs (37%). Fewer voters (19%) rated cutting taxes as the highest priority.

    Similarly, voters were divided over whether to repeal health care reform (48%) or maintain or even expand it (16% leave as is, 31% expand).

    A Clear Rejection of the Status Quo, No Consensus about Future Policies - Pew Research Center

    I ask again, where is the mandate there?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't speak for the left, whoever they are. You're having a discussion with me.

    And like I said, 30 something percent think healthcare and spending went too far. 30 somethign percent think health care reform and spending didn't go far eneough. And 30 something percent think it was just right. So, where's the mandate? Exactly how do you read that?
    You have proof for those figures? Are you talking the population in general or those that voted? If they did not vote they are not part of the mandate. You can not have such an extreme shift in power on both the state and federal level and claim there is no mandate.

    Nice spin to try and say you are not part of the democrats views when you use their talking points

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You have proof for those figures? Are you talking the population in general or those that voted? If they did not vote they are not part of the mandate. You can not have such an extreme shift in power on both the state and federal level and claim there is no mandate.

    Nice spin to try and say you are not part of the democrats views when you use their talking points
    Linked above.

    And yes, you can have a shift and not have a mandate. Dissatifiaction leads to a shift, but it would be a mistake to think that says anything about what they want.

    And I repeat, I don';t speak for anyone other than myself. Not the left, whoever they are. Not mongolian moose on the beartooth. Just myself.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nearly four-in-ten (39%) said that reducing the deficit should be the highest priority for the next Congress while nearly as many said spending to create jobs (37%). Fewer voters (19%) rated cutting taxes as the highest priority.

    Similarly, voters were divided over whether to repeal health care reform (48%) or maintain or even expand it (16% leave as is, 31% expand).

    A Clear Rejection of the Status Quo, No Consensus about Future Policies - Pew Research Center

    I ask again, where is the mandate there?
    The mandate is in the policies Obama and the democrats put in place. The voters are against them your link shows that. Where is the percetage that support tis policy?

    I would say this sums up the mandate.

    Opinion: Mandate for GOP or anti-Obama? - Dave Hoppe - POLITICO.com

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The mandate is in the policies Obama and the democrats put in place. The voters are against them your link shows that. Where is the percetage that support tis policy?

    I would say this sums up the mandate.

    Opinion: Mandate for GOP or anti-Obama? - Dave Hoppe - POLITICO.com
    Notice the numbers. 48% want repeal. 47% want the same or more. With any reasonable margin of error, that's a dead heat. Right down the middle. Opinion pieces don't change that.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Notice the numbers. 48% want repeal. 47% want the same or more. With any reasonable margin of error, that's a dead heat. Right down the middle. Opinion pieces don't change that.
    Problem is by electing the GOP and Tea party people they gave them the mandate to do what they campaigned on.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Problem is by electing the GOP and Tea party people they gave them the mandate to do what they campaigned on.
    Not really. If they do as they please, they will be short timers. Again, the numbers show this problem rather clearly.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not really. If they do as they please, they will be short timers. Again, the numbers show this problem rather clearly.
    Wrong like I said they have a mandate to do what the campaigned on. Such things as to repeal Obama care and cut spending and lower the deficit. The GOP will demand pay go be followed.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Wrong like I said they have a mandate to do what the campaigned on. Such things as to repeal Obama care and cut spending and lower the deficit. The GOP will demand pay go be followed.
    As one republican told me the other day, he repsents all in hsi district and not just the ones who voted for him. I think that is true. But, again, the representative that doesn't look at the division, doesn't see the complication of this division, will be a short timer. I'm betting they are smart than you give them credit for.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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