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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

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    What we don't know and never will know is whether or not the states could have saved those jobs without Federal Intervention. There is a bigger issue here, is that what you expected from the Stimulus plan? Is that how it was sold? Is that the role of the Federal Govt. to bailout inefficient state governments?

    I thought the stimulus was supposed to fund "shovel ready" jobs? Seems again you and the public that bought into the Obama rhetoric were duped.
    But we do know. Once the money was gone, states lost those jobs. not all states are out of that money, but in those in which it was used up, they lost those teachers.

    As for me not answering, doood, I'm not here 24 / 7. Give a little time, and try to remember this has been answered before with links. Maybe you should mark them so you can go back when the question arises in your mind again.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

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    But we do know. Once the money was gone, states lost those jobs. not all states are out of that money, but in those in which it was used up, they lost those teachers.

    As for me not answering, doood, I'm not here 24 / 7. Give a little time, and try to remember this has been answered before with links. Maybe you should mark them so you can go back when the question arises in your mind again.
    No, sorry you don't know, those jobs were not lost they were projected to go and we all know what Obama projections mean. Guess you don't have an answer to the question about the purpose of the stimulus. Was it sold on saving "teacher's jobs?"

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

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    What won't happen? I feel like you were reading something else as your response seems to being addressing something I didn't say.
    No you act like unions are not an influence here. The teahers union have great power

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

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    But we do know. Once the money was gone, states lost those jobs. not all states are out of that money, but in those in which it was used up, they lost those teachers.
    Which states are those?

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

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    No, sorry you don't know, those jobs were not lost they were projected to go and we all know what Obama projections mean. Guess you don't have an answer to the question about the purpose of the stimulus. Was it sold on saving "teacher's jobs?"
    Aren't teacher jobs jobs? or are teachers not worthy?

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

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    Aren't teacher jobs jobs? or are teachers not worthy?
    Teacher's jobs are state responsibility, not the Federal Responsibility. Noticed that you didn't answer my question regarding how the stimulus was sold. What Obama did was bailout the teacher's unions with stimulus funds which are hardly shovel ready projects.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

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    Teacher's jobs are state responsibility, not the Federal Responsibility. Noticed that you didn't answer my question regarding how the stimulus was sold. What Obama did was bailout the teacher's unions with stimulus funds which are hardly shovel ready projects.
    Doesn't matter to the claim. They are jobs, aren't they? And do students and people not suffer more than unions if teacher jobs are lost?

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

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    Doesn't matter to the claim. They are jobs, aren't they? And do students and people not suffer more than unions if teacher jobs are lost?
    Most suffer when the market drops as well but you aren't concerned about how the market is doing. Keep diverting which is all you do. The stimulus plan was for shovel ready jobs, not bailing out teacher's unions. All Obama did is what liberals always do, allow someone else to shirk their responsibilities which in this case was allow states not to make the tough choices. There are never consequences in the liberal world when the reality is liberalism is a total and complete failure as the actual results show.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

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    Most suffer when the market drops as well but you aren't concerned about how the market is doing. Keep diverting which is all you do. The stimulus plan was for shovel ready jobs, not bailing out teacher's unions. All Obama did is what liberals always do, allow someone else to shirk their responsibilities which in this case was allow states not to make the tough choices. There are never consequences in the liberal world when the reality is liberalism is a total and complete failure as the actual results show.
    You do make leaps. You should refrain from making calls on what I'm concerned about. And states have bene quite thankful for the help for the most part, and as a person who cares about education, so am I. But, the question was about saving jobs. The answer is those jobs were saved.

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    Re: Private sector sheds 39,000 jobs in September

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    You do make leaps. You should refrain from making calls on what I'm concerned about. And states have bene quite thankful for the help for the most part, and as a person who cares about education, so am I. But, the question was about saving jobs. The answer is those jobs were saved.
    What has happened is that states under liberal control have never had to make the tough choices thanks to Obama. That seems to be what liberals do, bailout failures. Obama claims that things could have been worse and you buy it. I claim that those jobs could have been saved without spending "shovel ready" stimulus money on those state issues. The American people were sold a bill of goods and only those like you continue to buy the rhetoric.

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