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    Re: Warren Buffett: Raise Taxes On The "Very Rich"

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Well, first off that's not what you said before. You said the taxes on someone making 200k/year would go up. You hadn't mentioned what "my boy" had said.

    Also:
    [citation needed]

    Where did he say this, and when? Referring to what?
    Do you fully understand what, "...under $200,000 a year...", means?
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    Re: Warren Buffett: Raise Taxes On The "Very Rich"

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Well, first off if they have 90% of the income, a flat tax would have them paying 90% of the taxes

    Second, poor people have to spend a disproportionate amount of their income on basic necessities, while a rich person has more discretionary income which they can save and invest, earning interest on. Therefore, adding $1000 in income to a rich person's income is worth, in essence, more than $1000. (they invest it and earn a return) Hence the basic reasoning for a progressive tax setup. Adding $1000 in income to a poor person just makes them a little less poor.

    Someone making $10,000 per year with two kids to support can't really afford to pay any of it in taxes. The same cannot be said of someone making $100,000 per year.
    Someone making 10 grand a year is probably on welfare, anyway.
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    Re: Warren Buffett: Raise Taxes On The "Very Rich"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you fully understand what, "...under $200,000 a year...", means?
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    You're not reading the right stuff. When the tax cuts expire, taxes on anyone making $200,000 a year, coporations will go up.
    You're changing the subject and you don't even seem to realize it. You said someone making 200k/year would have their taxes go up. This is not true, based on the plan to extend the lower end of the tax cuts.

    Then you brought up some random thing about Obama saying taxes would go down. Show evidence of this, please.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Warren Buffett: Raise Taxes On The "Very Rich"

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Well, first off if they have 90% of the income, a flat tax would have them paying 90% of the taxes

    Second, poor people have to spend a disproportionate amount of their income on basic necessities, while a rich person has more discretionary income which they can save and invest, earning interest on. Therefore, adding $1000 in income to a rich person's income is worth, in essence, more than $1000. (they invest it and earn a return) Hence the basic reasoning for a progressive tax setup. Adding $1000 in income to a poor person just makes them a little less poor.

    Someone making $10,000 per year with two kids to support can't really afford to pay any of it in taxes. The same cannot be said of someone making $100,000 per year.
    someone capable of only making 10 grand a year should not be producing two children



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    Re: Warren Buffett: Raise Taxes On The "Very Rich"

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You're changing the subject and you don't even seem to realize it. You said someone making 200k/year would have their taxes go up. This is not true, based on the plan to extend the lower end of the tax cuts.

    Then you brought up some random thing about Obama saying taxes would go down. Show evidence of this, please.
    you are not being truthful. if they have only earned income their SS taxes are going up since the ceiling has been removed. if they have dividend or capital gains income that is going up to whatever bracket they are in rather than being only 15% so you are flat out WRONG



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    Re: Warren Buffett: Raise Taxes On The "Very Rich"

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You're changing the subject and you don't even seem to realize it. You said someone making 200k/year would have their taxes go up. This is not true, based on the plan to extend the lower end of the tax cuts.

    Then you brought up some random thing about Obama saying taxes would go down. Show evidence of this, please.
    No, I'm not wrong:

    Lower tax rates on income and investments enacted in 2001 and 2003 expire Dec. 31. Obama and most Democrats want to retain those that target individuals earning less than $200,000 and married couples earning under $250,000 and allow policies that benefited those with higher incomes to expire.

    New York, Hawaii Top Earners Face Highest Tax Under Obama Plan, Study Says - Bloomberg
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    Re: Warren Buffett: Raise Taxes On The "Very Rich"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    someone capable of only making 10 grand a year should not be producing two children
    The fundamental flaw of conservatives is that they think income is determined solely on merit. They also think that there are no circumstances in which they could end up in this position.

    Only capable of. Wow. You really do think poor people are beneath you.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Warren Buffett: Raise Taxes On The "Very Rich"

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The fundamental flaw of conservatives is that they think income is determined solely on merit. They also think that there are no circumstances in which they could end up in this position.

    Only capable of. Wow. You really do think poor people are beneath you.
    as usual complete nonsense

    merit has nothing to do with it

    if you only make 10K a year you cannot possibly pay for two children

    I realize you dems want lots of poor people breeding massively to create more dem voters and more excuses for socialist income redistribution but the fact remains, someone only making 10K a year is not in a position to responsibly have two children. You want to whine and piss and moan that a big bad mean conservative is castigating the untalented or the unlucky. That has nothing to do with it. IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE FOR SOMEONE MAKING ONLY MINIMUM WAGE (at best) TO BE HAVING MULTIPLE CHILDREN



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    Re: Warren Buffett: Raise Taxes On The "Very Rich"

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The fundamental flaw of conservatives is that they think income is determined solely on merit. They also think that there are no circumstances in which they could end up in this position.

    Only capable of. Wow. You really do think poor people are beneath you.
    btw your claim is a complete strawman as well. I want some proof for your claim that COnservatives think income is determined solely on merit. Lindsay Lohan is a perfect example that it is not



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    Re: Warren Buffett: Raise Taxes On The "Very Rich"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    as usual complete nonsense

    merit has nothing to do with it

    if you only make 10K a year you cannot possibly pay for two children

    I realize you dems want lots of poor people breeding massively to create more dem voters and more excuses for socialist income redistribution
    I need to get my boots on.
    That's total bull**** and you know it. Democrats typically support Planned Parenthood, and Rupublican's typically don't.


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