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    Re: Sharron Angle Caught on Tape Blasting GOP Leaders

    I seriously doubt any Democrat - other than Hillary - takes him on. She BTW is as Far left as he is though emotionally appealing to a different base.

    Palin if nominated will lose. She's been stigmatixed and it will stick. Sure, She's no dunce - but She is not up to the Big Fight where SHE is the Candidate.

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    Re: Sharron Angle Caught on Tape Blasting GOP Leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Obama has dug himself such a huge hole, and has a record he has to defend... he can't run and hide, won't get away with Yes We Can, Hope, Change and We are the ones we are waiting for...

    He'll have more on his hands than Palin... he'll be busy running away from himself.

    I hope someone challenges the incompetent for the Dem nomination; won't happen, but might be their saving grace.
    Alittle homework (not to mention paying attention to more recent news) will show you that TARP, which bailed out the banks and GM/Chysler, wasn't Pres. Obama doing. These initiative were authorized under G. W. Bush and for what it's worth when you take an indepth look into the banking and housing crisis, you realize he did the right thing. All Pres. Obama did was pickup where GW Bush left off. In fact, the Obama Administration "fine tuned" those aspects of TARP that had grey areas to ensure bank CEOs no longer received bonuses and that the American taxpayers stood a chance to recoup the money the Treasury put up.

    On November 12, 2008, Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson indicated that reviving the securitization market for consumer credit would be a new priority in the second allotment.[17][18]

    On December 19, 2008, President Bush used his executive authority to declare that TARP funds may be spent on any program he personally deems necessary to avert the financial crisis. This has allowed President Bush to extend the use of TARP funds to support the auto industry, a move supported by the United Auto Workers.

    On December 31, 2008, the Treasury issued a report reviewing Section 102, the Troubled Assets Insurance Financing Fund, also known as the "Asset Guarantee Program." The report indicated that the program would likely not be made "widely available."[19]

    On January 15, 2009, the Treasury issued interim final rules for reporting and record keeping requirements under the executive compensation standards of the CPP.[20]

    On January 21, 2009, the Treasury announced new regulations regarding disclosure and mitigation of conflicts of interest in its TARP contracting.[21]

    On February 5, 2009, the Senate approved changes to the TARP that prohibit firms receiving TARP funds from paying bonuses to their 25 highest-paid employees. The amendment was proposed by Christopher Dodd of Connecticut as an amendment to the $900 billion economic stimulus act yet to be passed.[22]

    On February 10, 2009, the newly confirmed Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner outlined his plan to use the $300 billion or so remaining in the TARP funds. He intended to use $50 billion for foreclosure mitigation and use the rest to help fund private investors to buy toxic assets from banks. Nevertheless, this highly anticipated speech coincided with a nearly 5 percent drop in the S&P 500 and was criticized for being short on details.[23]

    On March 23, 2009, U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner announced a Public-Private Investment Program (P-PIP) to buy toxic assets from banks' balance sheets. The major stock market indexes in the United States rallied on the day of the announcement rising by over six percent with the shares of bank stocks leading the way.[24] P-PIP has two primary programs. The Legacy Loans Program will attempt to buy residential loans from bank's balance sheets. The FDIC will provide non-recourse loan guarantees for up to 85 percent of the purchase price of legacy loans. Private sector asset managers and the U.S. Treasury will provide the remaining assets. The second program is called the legacy securities program, which will buy mortgage backed securities (RMBS) that were originally rated AAA and commercial mortgage-backed securities (CMBS) and asset-backed securities (ABS) which are rated AAA. The funds will come in many instances in equal parts from the U.S. Treasury's TARP monies, private investors, and from loans from the Federal Reserve's Term Asset Lending Facility (TALF). The initial size of the Public Private Investment Partnership is projected to be $500 billion.[25] Economist and Nobel Prize winner Paul Krugman has been very critical of this program arguing the non-recourse loans lead to a hidden subsidy that will be split by asset managers, banks' shareholders and creditors.[26] Banking analyst Meredith Whitney argues that banks will not sell bad assets at fair market values because they are reluctant to take asset write downs.[27] Removing toxic assets would also reduce the volatility of banks' stock prices. This lost volatility will hurt the stock price of distressed banks. Therefore, such banks will only sell toxic assets at above market prices.[28]

    On April 19, the Obama administration outlined the conversion of Banks Bailouts to Equity Share.[29]
    Think about it this way...

    Had the Treasure just gave the banks and auto industry loans with no collateral (i.e., assets, i.e., common/preferred stock or bonds) nor guarantees ("warrants") on how the Treasury would be paid back, the banks, GM & Chrysler would have merely walked away with billions of free taxpayer dollars. Atleast by having these private entities "pony up" something (not to mention adhere to tough guidelines) the "People" were assured most if not all of the money would be repaid - most in short order, the rest over time either through the sell of remaining stock/bonds on the financial market or by having these same private entities buy same back once they became more solvent.

    Not all the TARP funds have been repaid, but alot of it has been.

    Of the $245 billion invested in U.S. banks, over $169 billion has been paid back, including $13.7 billion in dividends, interest and other income, along with $4 billion in warrant proceeds as of April 2010.
    And the interest, dividend and principal payments have gone toward reducing the deficit.

    So, while people (mostly Republicans and Conservatives) continue to harp on this issue, you can stop now! Congress ended TARP 10/03/10 and by all accounts most entities who received bailouts through this program are on schedule to meet their financial obligation to the Treasury within the next year.

    As for Sharron Angle, Nov 2 is still just under 28 days away. I doubt she'll get the Republican backing she may have been looking for, but without it I doubt she can win. Still, the People have to come out and vote. So, who knows what will happen.

    As to Palin throwing her name into the 2012 Presidential race, I wish she would! I'd be the first to call her a "celebraty" and "rock star" and elitist just as she and McCain claimed Obama was. I mean, look at how she has extended her 15-minutes of fan. C'mon!!

    I've had more than enough of this woman and wish she'd just go the hell away already!
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    Re: Sharron Angle Caught on Tape Blasting GOP Leaders

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    Sharron Angle Caught on Tape Blasting GOP Leaders



    Angle: “I’m not sure I can win” if Ashjian’s in, nat’l GOPers “have lost their principles,” need to “leave me alone”


    It's over Johnny.

    Thanks to the teabrains, the Dems will hold the Senate and Reid will stay in charge.
    Well done, regular folks...
    ROTFLOL... Johnny... it's over... ROTFLOL... like I thought... what you believed would hurt Angle will only help.

    It's wide open with the Angle eking ahead.

    Reid on the Ropes in Nevada

    Republican Sharron Angle seems to be solidifying her support in her bid to unseat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in Nevada.

    In the latest Fox News battleground state poll of likely voters, Angle drew 49 percent to Reid’s 46 percent. As voters make up their mind with four weeks to go until Election Day, Angle seems to have the edge.

    In the first Fox battleground poll in the Silver State four weeks ago, 10 percent of respondents were either unsure, in favor of a minor party candidate or, as state law allows in Nevada, planning to vote for "none of these candidates."

    In this week's poll, those three categories add up to 5 percent. Over the same period, Angle’s overall vote percentage went from 45 percent to 49 percent.

    Democratic strategists hope to prevent an Angle win by driving up her unfavorable ratings and pushing voters to choose a minor party candidate or “none of these.” Angle was viewed unfavorable by 53 percent in the survey. But Reid was viewed unfavorably by 55 percent.

    Angle's supporters are growing more certain of their support, too. Two weeks ago, 10 percent of Angle supporters said they could still change their minds. That number has dropped to 4 percent.

    While Angle's lead is still within the poll’s 3-point margin of error, this is the first Fox battleground poll in Nevada to show a difference of more than 1 point.

    The survey generally reflects a sharpening of opinion in Nevada. A strengthening among Democrats lifted Obama's job approval from 40 percent to 44 percent. Support for the Tea Party movement, meanwhile, rose from 25 percent to 30 percent.

    The race remains a true tossup, though, because voters aren’t very happy with their choices. Fifty six percent of all voters said Reid had been in office too long and 53 percent said Angle’s views were "too extreme."

    Click here for the complete questionnaire

    FOXNews.com - Fox News Polls: GOP Poised to Gain or Hold Senate Seats in Key States
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    Re: Sharron Angle Caught on Tape Blasting GOP Leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Sharron Angle Caught on Tape Blasting GOP Leaders



    Angle: “I’m not sure I can win” if Ashjian’s in, nat’l GOPers “have lost their principles,” need to “leave me alone”


    It's over Johnny.

    Thanks to the teabrains, the Dems will hold the Senate and Reid will stay in charge.
    Well done, regular folks...
    latest polling shows Angle moving ahead and cementing her position. If she's disgusted with much of the Republican establishment, that only makes her like most Americans and especially like most voters.
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    Re: Sharron Angle Caught on Tape Blasting GOP Leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    latest polling shows Angle moving ahead and cementing her position. If she's disgusted with much of the Republican establishment, that only makes her like most Americans.
    I agree cp!

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    Re: Sharron Angle Caught on Tape Blasting GOP Leaders

    yup; that's why the Tea-Party-esque candidates are going to be winning this fall. It's why Rubio took over in Florida, Rand Paul in Kentucky, and Angle could very well take Nevada.

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    Re: Sharron Angle Caught on Tape Blasting GOP Leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yup; that's why the Tea-Party-esque candidates are going to be winning this fall. It's why Rubio took over in Florida, Rand Paul in Kentucky, and Angle could very well take Nevada.
    The MSM doesn't get it. They were playing that tape like it was going to do her in. LOL

    By the way, does anyone think that Ashjian dude might be a plant by the liberals to take votes away from Angle? I heard he used to be a Dem.
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    Re: Sharron Angle Caught on Tape Blasting GOP Leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Alittle homework (not to mention paying attention to more recent news) will show you that TARP, which bailed out the banks and GM/Chysler, wasn't Pres. Obama doing. These initiative were authorized under G. W. Bush...
    It's not like Dems were saying no to TARP... come on... and then Obama blew the doors down later... with nothing to show for it.

    Conservatives weren't supporters of TARP... and may I add, we didn't like Bush's spending... the Dems on the other hand believed it wasn't enough.

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    Re: Sharron Angle Caught on Tape Blasting GOP Leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    It's not like Dems were saying no to TARP... come on... and then Obama blew the doors down later... with nothing to show for it.
    Really. You do realize that the bulk of TARP was spent under Bush no? Btw, define the TED rate for me. Also, what happened to interbank loaning? Try for a change. Brainz in action you know?

    Conservatives weren't supporters of TARP.
    Depends how you define "Conservatives." How many Conservatives support the collapse of banking and financial sectors? How many Conservatives support the gutting of trillions of dollars of retirement funds? The funny **** is people like you bash Obama and Bush on TARP as well as Congressmen who voted for it while they saved your retirement funds. No good deed goes unpunished. Castle voted for TARP, saved millions of his voters' retirement funds and got kicked out for it.

    and may I add, we didn't like Bush's spending
    So much so you guys are ready to put two Republicans who did nothing to stop that spending as House and Senate leader. Keep pretending.

    "We didn't like Bush's spending. Meet Boehner and Mitchell. They are now in charge of the House and Senate. Ignore the ugly fact they partook in Bush's rampant spending.

    There is one difference between the Democrats and Republicans. The Republicans pretend their beliefs are different.
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    Re: Sharron Angle Caught on Tape Blasting GOP Leaders

    Castle lost because a lot of angry ideologues took over the GOP in a Small State (for now) and in doing so they've conceded an easy Win to at least add on to a GOP possible Senate majority, and converted into an almost sure defeat. Polls in a small State can be deceptive, but I doubt this much ground can be made up.

    The GOP has less than top notch people in tight races in several States. I use that term because them actually winning just might make things worse down the line. Rand Paul is essentially "Playing out the Clock" in Kentucky and that's the race with as of now the best Republican edge. Colorado,Nevada are losable and Connecticut may be just to big a registration margin to overcome.Linda McMahon if from a more suitable Business background just might be the more credible of the GOP newcomers.

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