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    Re: Stop the Internet Blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Considering that the average judge doesn't have the slightest idea how the internet works, this seems like a terrible idea.
    You're basing that opinion on what?

    A prosecutor/attorney presents evidence of a crime. If it can be shown that the main purpose of particular site is to facilitate theft... seems reasonable to block that site.

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    Re: Stop the Internet Blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    You're basing that opinion on what?

    A prosecutor/attorney presents evidence of a crime. If it can be shown that the main purpose of particular site is to facilitate theft... seems reasonable to block that site.
    IMO this exemplifies the point being made - no theft is involved here at all. It is something different/new we are dealing with.
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    Re: Stop the Internet Blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    But if COICA passes, Viacom wouldn't even need to prove YouTube is doing anything illegal to get it shut down -- as long as they can persuade the courts that enough other people are using it for copyright infringement, the whole site could be censored.
    And this is why I have no sympathy for the Industry whenever they whine about piracy. Yah right.
    If it isn't 3 strikes, its's censoring the internet, if it isn't fining innocent people without proof then its ACTA Treaty. **** 'em.


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    Re: Stop the Internet Blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    These groups are basically using censorship to try and fight a losing war.

    Yay intellectual property?
    Good luck to 'em. There is a whole saga going on over here in UK in regards to this.
    Cliff notes:
    A law firm who sends threatening letters to individuals home demanding up to 500 pounds repay for "downloading" (without proof)
    Owner of law firms taunts 4chan ..
    Emails of tens of thousands of BT/Sky/ISP's customers details get leaked online which includes credit details goes online
    Law firm is now being investigated by Commission and will be fined up to half a million for not protecting data and ISP's have revolted and refuse to co operate with anti piracy efforts.
    And when he is fined, he will go bankrupt

    Epic Win.

    Oh and
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    Re: Stop the Internet Blacklist

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    IMO this exemplifies the point being made - no theft is involved here at all. It is something different/new we are dealing with.
    10 years ago it was different/new... Today it's electronic shoplifting to the tune of 51 BILLION DOLLARS...

    In 2009, more than four out of 10 software programs installed on personal computers around the world were stolen, with a commercial value of more than $51 billion. Unauthorized software can manifest in otherwise legal businesses that buy too few software licenses, or overt criminal enterprises that sell counterfeit copies of software programs at cut-rate prices, online or offline.
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    Re: Stop the Internet Blacklist

    One thing that I have always wondered about when it comes to laws and regulations passed by Congress and signed by some other fool that have the potential for massive abuse is why they never think about the next Guy to lie his or her way into office and make full use of what ever tools were stupidly put in place for them.

    The lack of brain power is remarkable especially when you think about the radical Socialist/Marxist/Black Liberation Theology fan we have in the White House now, and he has part of his cadre already talking about censorship and breaking up Conservative owned Radio up.

    Obama's Czar Mark Lloyd's FCC 'Diversity' Chief - His Take on Free Speech, and not good.

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