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    Elderly Woman Shoots 12-Year-Old Boy
    Boy Is Charged With Crime, Woman Is Not

    A shooting on the city's Southeast Side has people telling two entirely different stories.

    Neighbors said an elderly woman was fed up with constant harassment from a 12-year-old boy, so she took a gun and shot the child after he and his friends threw bricks into her home.

    Now, the boy is charged with a crime, while the 68-year-old woman is not.

    The boy who was shot, along with another boy, 13, are cited in juvenile delinquency petitions with one count each of misdemeanor aggravated assault to a senior citizen, according to police.

    The woman, identified by neighbors as Margaret Matthews, was released from police custody without being charged, on the grounds that she acted in self defense, police said.

    The boy who was shot was out of the hospital as of Wednesday morning, and was released to his parents, police said.

    The shooting happened near 76th Street and Coles Avenue. Afterward, neighbors said Matthews was distraught because of everything that led up to the trigger-pull.

    "She was very emotional; she was an emotional wreck,'' said a neighbor, Troila McCoy.

    Neighbors said the boy was the ringleader of a group of kids, and had been holding his own little reign of terror on the block – especially targeting Matthews.

    "I call him the little bad boy," said another neighbor, Hilda Brunt.

    McCoy said the boy had been breaking windows, breaking items on Matthews' shed house, and setting her garbage on fire.

    "I would say they were bullying her," added neighbor Frenchie Johnson. "She was an older lady. She stayed there by herself. They know that. And she's one of the ladies that, she stands up for herself."

    Asked if he supported Matthews' actions, Johnson emphatically said, "Yes."

    Damage from the alleged vandalism was apparent in the form of a boarded-up window at the home of the woman.

    Neighbors say when the boy threw the bricks and broke Matthews' windows, she simply hit the breaking point.

    "They threw a brick through her window," neighbor Rafael Ramirez said Wednesday. "I think she gave them as much warning as I think she could."

    She called police and they came, but after officers left, the boy came back. That was when Matthews responded with gunfire.


    But the boy's own family has a completely different story.

    "He and his friend were walking down the street, and they saw a window broken at a woman's house, and as they passed by, they said she came out shooting," said the boy's grandmother, Donna Virges.

    Other neighbors echoed the boy's grandmother's comments.

    "I talked to (the boy) on the phone in the hospital," said neighbor Tania Outlaw. "He said that he was just walking past with two other boys… and the lady started shooting."

    "All we heard was the shots, and she came out. (The boy) was like, 'She shot me! She shot me!'" said neighbor Rhonda Jackson. "He wasn't the type of little boy to do that; to throw a brick in an old lady's window like that."


    Regine White is angry that Matthews wasn't charged with a crime.

    "She could have threatened them and said, 'I'm going to call the police,' but the fact that she just hauled off and shot them – that was unnecessary," White said.

    Still, the incident struck a nerve with some, as a desk officer at the South Chicago police district where the shooting happened said at about 11 p.m. Tuesday, he fielded a call from a concerned citizen who does not know Matthews.

    The woman caller wanted to let police know that if needed, she would raise bail money for the woman involved because she "should not go to jail," the officer said.

    The caller explained she had also been "terrorized" in a similar way, she "knows what she feels like," and the woman "did the right thing," according to the officer.

    WBBM Newsradio 780 reports neighbors say Matthews is a widow, works two jobs and lived in the same home for nearly 30 years. Neighbors know her as "Miss Margaret," WBBM's Lisa Fielding reports.

    The boy's charges could land him in juvenile detention for up to a year.
    Elderly Woman Shoots 12-Year-Old Boy In South Shore - cbs2chicago.com

    I can't believe the stupidity of people taking up for this kid. The lady did call the cops and then the kids came back. Of course the little bastard is going to deny doing anything wrong. My only complaint is that she didn't blast his nuts off to keep his sorry ass from reproducing more thugs like himself.
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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I can't believe the stupidity of people taking up for this kid.
    Indeed, sticking up for the boy with all the boys without the entie story set is unwise - but sticking up for the lady without all the facts eother is just as unwise.
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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    I side with the old lady. I don't believe the story of the kids, especially considering the neighbors have stated they are trouble makers. If they were good kids why would the cops have to come out? You go granny
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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe
    I side with the old lady. I don't believe the story of the kids, especially considering the neighbors have stated they are trouble makers. If they were good kids why would the cops have to come out? You go granny
    Yes... the response to kids throwing bricks through a window and setting a garbage on fire is to go out and shoot them. I'll remember that next time my annoying mail man intentionally leaves the paper outside while it's raining. Yes. That is what I will do. I'll go out and shoot him. Then after that? I'll shoot whomever cuts me off in traffic. After that? I'll shoot the first Mormon who comes and terrorizes me with their silly 18th century beliefs. Yes. That is what I'll do. Whenever I feel terrorized, I'll just shoot somebody. I could get used to the 2nd amendment.
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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    It's stupid to stand up for either side when at this point the only information given is he-said she-said.

    My gut instinct says to trust the old lady over the kid, since it's common for kids to lie about doing something wrong.

    However, there are some crazy old people out there who do stuff like this for no good reason, so until more information comes out I'm reserving judgment.
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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Hardly a he said/she said. More like kids said/and bunch of neighbors and cops said. The kids have been picked up by the cops a few times before, according to the article. And the neighbors have said they're troublemakers, vandalizers, and have been harassing this woman for some time.

    Good for her for defending herself. A brick through a window could very easily have killed her. Get those punks off the street and teach them a lesson.
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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Hardly a he said/she said. More like kids said/and bunch of neighbors and cops said. The kids have been picked up by the cops a few times before, according to the article. And the neighbors have said they're troublemakers, vandalizers, and have been harassing this woman for some time.

    Good for her for defending herself. A brick through a window could very easily have killed her. Get those punks off the street and teach them a lesson.
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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    I wish she would've taken a different course of action.
    I think her firearm should be confiscated, and that she should lose the right to own one.

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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Off the streets is different then killing them
    She killed them?

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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    I was looking to see if parents could be held criminally liable for the actions of their kids. Apparently, they can be charged with neglect and in some cases be held civially liable for damages. But in general, no. But some states are considering it.....

    Are You Criminally Liable for Your Child's Crimes? - Associated Content - associatedcontent.com

    In this case, and because of the parents response, I think the parents should definiately be charged with neglect and the boy spend a long time in juvenile detention. Because I don't think that old lady has seen the last of that boy and I think he will try to retaliate.

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