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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I doubt that would have stopped the little brat from picking up another brick. Besides, I didn't say she was Annie Oakley, only that it was a good shot and that wounding him was all that was neccessary. But others here are talking like deadly force is the only way to use a gun, it isn't. Aiming for the extremities can be just as effective.
    Will you still say this when the "little brat" comes back and sets her house on fire? If it happens in a couple of years, I'll remember, and I'll ask you...

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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    Will you still say this when the "little brat" comes back and sets her house on fire? If it happens in a couple of years, I'll remember, and I'll ask you...
    Which begs the question of whether or not it is, or will remain that out of hand. Lets just focus on the "what has happened" and not base what has occurred on what COULD POSSIBLE in the future HAPPEN or NOT happen.
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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    In my formerly-professional opinion, she definately overreacted to some degree, and was fortunate not to be charged.

    Do I sympathize with the untenable situation she found herself in? Of course. Absolutely.

    Her solution however, was less than ideal.

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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    In my formerly-professional opinion, she definately overreacted to some degree, and was fortunate not to be charged.

    Do I sympathize with the untenable situation she found herself in? Of course. Absolutely.

    Her solution however, was less than ideal.
    I would be curious to know how you would have handled the situation if you were her? Keep in mind it was almost a years worth of harrassment (setting fires, throwing bricks, distruction of property, etc) and calling the police and the boys parents was futile.

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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I would be curious to know how you would have handled the situation if you were her? Keep in mind it was almost a years worth of harrassment (setting fires, throwing bricks, distruction of property, etc) and calling the police and the boys parents was futile.

    I regret to say that sometimes the system does not work very well. There are lazy cops sometimes, and even the good cops often find their hands tied by proceedure and the courts. Anything involving juveniles is especially difficult, because they are often treated with kid gloves to the point of ridiculousity.

    I would naturally have begun by attempting to get the law to handle it. To facilitate this, security cameras hooked up to recorders would be placed to catch his actions on film. Nothing says "prosecutable" like video evidence.

    I would confer with his parents in a very serious manner, explaining that they were susceptible to lawsuit for damages for their offsprings' misbehavior.

    I would document everything, and keep copies of police reports, and establish a "paper trail" that the harassment was ongoing.

    If there was no resolution through the law, I'd take everything to a journalist for the local news. They often love scandals and headlines saying "Police not doing their job, local widow terrorized," and that sort of thing.

    One of the problems with this sort of situation is that they DO tend to escalate until something drastic eventually happens. There's a good chance, if this old lady hadn't been armed, that one day or another we would have read how she'd been murdered by this juvenile, or very gravely injured. If things had gone on without any resolution, there's a good chance that either the old lady or the bad kid would have ended up dead at some point. The circumstances under which this DID happen were less than ideal, as they left room for someone to ask whether it was really a legitimate shooting or not. There are ways to manage these situations better, but nothing I'm going to talk about online.

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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    I doubt she had the means to install cameras. The police had already failed her.
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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    This woman had been terrorized by these punks for an extended period of time They set fire to her property. They put a brick through her window, which hit her in the chest. They came back with more bricks. During all this the police were ineffective at best at defending this woman from these little monsters. I have absolutely no problem with her response. Could she have responded differently? Sure. But everyone has a breaking point and after constantly being harrassed by these thugs, she apparently reached hers.
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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    why you shoot first and ask questions later. keep in mind, this guy was a professional who had been trained in disarming an opponent. this is why cops shoot guys with knives. and why I have no problem with this lady shooting this punk who was assaulting her with bricks.

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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I'd draw it shy of using lethal force against a kid with a brick.

    You can kill someone with just about anything, so simply saying "the brick could have hurt or killed her" is a bunch of crap. You have to look at the percentages, and I'd imagine that a brick kills A LOT less often than a firearm.

    Further, she was being pelted when she stood at her window to look at or yell at the kids, and when she went outside to confront them. I can understand why, but if someone's throwing heavy **** at you, putting yourself in range of the heavy **** is a dumb thing to do.

    I'm not saying these kids are in the clear, they should definitely be punished. I'm just saying that she took it WAY too far with the gun.
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