Page 22 of 39 FirstFirst ... 12202122232432 ... LastLast
Results 211 to 220 of 389

Thread: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

  1. #211
    ANTI**ANTIFA
    ReverendHellh0und's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Temple of Solomon
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 06:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    75,740

    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I actually work with this population and have never had to threaten shooting someone to get them to stop acting out.



    You aren't an elderly woman, and you have a confident attitude.
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

  2. #212
    ANTI**ANTIFA
    ReverendHellh0und's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Temple of Solomon
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 06:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    75,740

    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Good. Now tell me where that admissible reputation for violence comes from?

    And further, that in no way states that a crime that hasn't been charged is admissible.


    What are we goal post moving, and yes yes it does, if his "reputation" is that of say drug dealing and assault, that hasn't been charged, it is absolutely admissible.
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

  3. #213
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Redneck Riviera
    Last Seen
    07-09-11 @ 06:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    28,728

    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    You aren't an elderly woman, and you have a confident attitude.
    68 isn't elderly. Cut out the hyperbole.

  4. #214
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Last Seen
    02-16-11 @ 08:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    36,915
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    The aggressor was still on her property with bricks, egress to the home where this savage had thrown bricks through the window is not retreating to safety. Also See my above post, I hope that quells your admissibility issue.
    The aggressor was on the other side of a wall. The bricks weren't coming through the wall. She felt safe enough to stop and call the police. She went back outside. She put herself back in range of the aggressor when she didn't have to do so. She ended up placing herself in a position to fire a gun at kids rather than wait for the police.

    She placed herself back in harm's way. End of story.

  5. #215
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Last Seen
    02-16-11 @ 08:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    36,915
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    What are we goal post moving, and yes yes it does, if his "reputation" is that of say drug dealing and assault, that hasn't been charged, it is absolutely admissible.
    No we are not goal post moving. No, no it doesn't. It in no way states that you can pose that a person is a criminal without charges to back you up.

  6. #216
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Last Seen
    02-16-11 @ 08:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    36,915
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    68 isn't elderly. Cut out the hyperbole.
    I know. He said you aren't an elderly woman.

    *couldn't resist*

  7. #217
    ANTI**ANTIFA
    ReverendHellh0und's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Temple of Solomon
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 06:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    75,740

    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    The aggressor was on the other side of a wall. The bricks weren't coming through the wall. She felt safe enough to stop and call the police. She went back outside. She put herself back in range of the aggressor when she didn't have to do so. She ended up placing herself in a position to fire a gun at kids rather than wait for the police.

    She placed herself back in harm's way. End of story.



    I had to go back, I don't know why you are getting into the habit of doing this but:


    The woman called police and was putting away her groceries when the boys showed up again, authorities said.
    The woman walked out onto the porch and the boys began shouting obscenities and throwing bricks at her, authorities said. The woman then pulled out a gun and opened fire, striking one of the boys in the shoulder, authorities said. -Chicago tribune.



    She was being attacked.
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

  8. #218
    ANTI**ANTIFA
    ReverendHellh0und's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Temple of Solomon
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 06:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    75,740

    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    68 isn't elderly. Cut out the hyperbole.

    68 is gettin up there...



    Let me ask you, since Jallman won't answer. What should the woman have done?
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

  9. #219
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Redneck Riviera
    Last Seen
    07-09-11 @ 06:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    28,728

    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I know. He said you aren't an elderly woman.

    *couldn't resist*
    Well, I'm 44. On the "Shoot on Sight" timeline, I'm elderly and frail, too.

  10. #220
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Redneck Riviera
    Last Seen
    07-09-11 @ 06:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    28,728

    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    68 is gettin up there...
    Let me ask you, since Jallman won't answer. What should the woman have done?
    I've provided options above. If she felt that she was at risk of imminent harm, she should have called the police. Did she believe that the 12 year old was going to storm her house, for instance? What other types of non-lethal force could she have utilized?

    In my department, if sending cops to her house didn't work, police would have gone to the parents' houses and met with them. They might have sent someone like me to meet with the kids and their parents. The children involved were also involved in the juvenile justice system, so there is some recourse available through the court system.

    The last thing I would have done, to be frank, was to up the level of escalation by walking back outside, firearm in hand, and confronted the kids.

    I actually worked with situations like this in my former job. Chicago PD has a ton of victim resources. I'd probably have asked the officers for a referral to a victim advocate, and worked with that person to potentially file a nuisance suit against the family involved.

    I would have worked specifically with these folks: https://portal.chicagopolice.org/por.../OtherHelpLine

    A lot of times, the crime prevention advocates in a large department like Chicago can create a pro-active neighborhood plan to address problems like this, whereas repeatedly calling 911 is just going to result in another patrol officer who isn't familiar with the problem being dispatched to the scene.
    Last edited by Catz Part Deux; 10-01-10 at 03:25 PM.

Page 22 of 39 FirstFirst ... 12202122232432 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •