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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Oh, for crying out loud. Are you serious?

    She came out onto her porch and fired a gun away from the house, which means towards the street. A city street. With houses on it.

    That's all I needed to know.


    Then you would be ignorant. Just from your description the only thing in danger other than the kid would be the ground as from her porch the trajectory is most assuredly "down"....
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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Our justice system does not permit for us to put kids in jail for vandalism, let alone permit them to be shot.
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    Vandalism includes the modification, defacement and willful destruction of public or private property without the owner's knowledge and consent. Vandalism can include graffiti or tagging, but it can also include breaking windows and posting leaflets or brochures on public or private property without permission. In some areas toilet papering property is also considered to be vandalism. There are significantly different issues with vandalism in different areas, so knowing your local vandalism laws is important to avoid any criminal activity. In some areas vandalism laws allow for an enhanced penalty if the act of vandalism falls into the category of a hate crime. This typically includes targeting someone because of their race, color, sexual orientation, religious affiliation or nationality. These types of crimes, either enhanced or simple vandalism, can result in significant fines, restitution ordered, probation and even jail time. In some situations vandalism of public property such as mail boxes, historical sites, parks or monuments carry significant sentences of jail time, even for first time offenders.
    juveniles can be sentenced to "jail" for vandalism. as for the part in bold, in many cities the garbage cans are actually owned by the govt and are thus "public property". setting her garbage cans on fire could have landed these punks in juvie for a significant time. of course, depending on the particular laws of that area.
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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Our justice system does not permit for us to put kids in jail for vandalism, let alone permit them to be shot.

    I'm all for second amendment rights and I support the safety of little old ladies. But shooting a kid or several kids because of a brick and a broken window is just beyond the pale. The lady should be locked up for, at the very least, assault on a minor with an aggravated charge since it was a deadly weapon.


    but they do for felony arson and assault with a deadly weapon.

    Once he refused to drop the brick, you can add menacing to the charges.
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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
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    juveniles can be sentenced to "jail" for vandalism. as for the part in bold, in many cities the garbage cans are actually owned by the govt and are thus "public property". setting her garbage cans on fire could have landed these punks in juvie for a significant time. of course, depending on the particular laws of that area.
    Kids are not sentenced to "jail" for simple vandalism. Please read the part where I said "kids". They may spend time in a juvenile detention center but even that is highly unlikely.

    You in no way negated my point that a gunshot wound is an acceptable response to vandalism by a kid.

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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    but they do for felony arson and assault with a deadly weapon.

    Once he refused to drop the brick, you can add menacing to the charges.
    Even then, you have to show intent to attack the woman with the brick. A brick in the hand, by itself, is not sufficient evidence of assault or menace.

    As for the felony arson claim, show me a charge of felony arson and we have a discussion. Until then, this woman shot a kid with a brick over a broken window. That is the crime here.

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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I agree, but she could just have easily hit someone else that had nothing to do with the situation, and that means she did something wrong.

    Bullets don't stop just because they hit their intended target -- and this lady says she wasn't trying to hit the kid, which makes the fact that she shot him more dangerous.
    it was dangerous, and maybe reckless, but deserved. so let's charge her with some misdeamoner, and put the kid in juvie for awhile.

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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Kids are not sentenced to "jail" for simple vandalism. Please read the part where I said "kids". They may spend time in a juvenile detention center but even that is highly unlikely.
    I saw where you said kids. kids/juveniles same thing. and they may spend time in a juvenile detention center aka jail. so our justice system does allow for kids to go to jail for vandalism.

    You in no way negated my point that a gunshot wound is an acceptable response to vandalism by a kid.
    and if this was a simple case of vandalism, you would have a valid point.
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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Even then, you have to show intent to attack the woman with the brick. A brick in the hand, by itself, is not sufficient evidence of assault or menace.

    Incorrect my friend. the crime of "menacing" is simply brandishing a weapon in order to "menace" the victim. Given that there was an attempted assault, he being fearful of her life justifies her use of a weapon for self defense.


    Here are a couple examples.

    GORST: Brick through window hit baby, mother says | Northwest News - The News Tribune

    Menacing Law & Legal Definition


    Clearly an attempted assault, and menacing. The woman was justified in shooting the kid.

    I would almost argue shooting to scare the kid could be considered menacing in certain jurisdictions, she's lucky to have hit him.








    As for the felony arson claim, show me a charge of felony arson and we have a discussion. Until then, this woman shot a kid with a brick over a broken window. That is the crime here.
    Arson is a Felony Crime


    There is a case for all of these things here.
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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Also to add Jallman and others,

    from the article:

    "Physically, she got hit with the bricks and she defended herself," she said.


    This is felony assault with a deadly weapon. She was justifed.


    Remember folks this is south chi-town, if they had a chance they would have raped her on gun charges if they could.
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    Re: good for her. old lady shoots punk kid

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    What if the kid through a brick through my window where I lived and I came out grabbed him and broke his arm in the entailing scuffle. Should I be punished?
    No, that would be an accident and not a danger to anyone else.

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    How about a bat?
    A bat is a reasonable response to a brick.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    How about I threw a brick at him and killed him?
    Now I'm not sure, only because now he's dead. Probably okay with me, but it's in a gray area.


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