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    GOP candidate to Obama: 'Go to hell'

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    ever wonder why we've become so nasty? our would be leaders encourage it. i'm sick of it, all the way around.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: GOP candidate to Obama: 'Go to hell'

    So much for respect for the office. It was only a matter of time.
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    Re: GOP candidate to Obama: 'Go to hell'

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So much for respect for the office. It was only a matter of time.
    it's become normal.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: GOP candidate to Obama: 'Go to hell'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    First Read - GOP candidate to Obama: 'Go to hell'

    ever wonder why we've become so nasty? our would be leaders encourage it. i'm sick of it, all the way around.
    Setting aside all issues of party for a moment, I think it has less to do with changing tone and more to do with changing coverage.

    Those who pay attention to political rhetoric say an unusual amount of profanity has emanated from this White House – even without counting famously colorful White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel. But before this statement becomes fodder for yet another partisan debate (with conservatives saying Obama is disgracing the presidency, and liberals that the media are once again being unfair), they quickly add that Team Obama is no crasser than administrations past. It’s just that they are being quoted more accurately.

    What’s different, according to linguists, media analysts and reporters who’ve covered past administrations is the media: Networks and newspapers have become far more willing to run with quotes, video and audio of political figures and their aides saying things that never used to be repeated. They attribute the growth of the political potty mouth alternately to the proliferation of recording technologies; intense interest in all things Obama; the explosion of new media platforms that both circumvent and push traditional media while sharpening competition; a general coarsening of the public dialogue; or some combination of all of those factors.

    “Cursing happened all the time, across the board, wherever you went in the White House or on the trail or in campaign offices – it simply wasn’t written about,” said Haynes Johnson, a former reporter for The Washington Post who covered the campaigns or presidencies of every president from Dwight Eisenhower to Bill Clinton, and has written books about the working White House, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon and, most recently, the 2008 presidential election.
    Very interesting article, read the whole thing.

    edit: the word filter blocks out a part of the address, so you have to type in the word that comes naturally.
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    Re: GOP candidate to Obama: 'Go to hell'

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Setting aside all issues of party for a moment, I think it has less to do with changing tone and more to do with changing coverage.



    Very interesting article, read the whole thing.
    thanks...i'll go with the combination of all factors. i don't, however, think that 20 years ago we would heard a campaign speech in which the speaker told the president to "go to hell", nor do i believe we would have had congressmen belting out "you lie" during a presidential address.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: GOP candidate to Obama: 'Go to hell'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    thanks...i'll go with the combination of all factors. i don't, however, think that 20 years ago we would heard a campaign speech in which the speaker told the president to "go to hell", nor do i believe we would have had congressmen belting out "you lie" during a presidential address.
    150 years ago, we had a Congressman beat a Senator into a coma on the floor of the Senate. Politicians regularly libeled each other in the press using pseudonyms and duels were not uncommon. Politics has always been a filthy business.
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    Re: GOP candidate to Obama: 'Go to hell'

    RightNYC,

    Your link doesn't work. Still, the segment you did post makes a valid argument. The national TV airwaves have been getting alittle more risque where politics are concerned, and with with the people on both sides of the political isle having the ability to record conversations in the palm of their hands it's no wonder we're hearing more and more "inappropriate language" in the media from politicians.

    Still, I can handle the occasional censored vulgarity here and there. What I'm finding truly offensive is the rabid display of disrespect being shown towards the Office of the President of the United States. It's as if some people no longer hold the office with the highest regard anymore. It's like I said in another thread just yesterday, "dislike the man and his policies, but don't disrespect the Office".

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    Re: GOP candidate to Obama: 'Go to hell'

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    150 years ago, we had a Congressman beat a Senator into a coma on the floor of the Senate. Politicians regularly libeled each other in the press using pseudonyms and duels were not uncommon. Politics has always been a filthy business.
    i suppose it has.......

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: GOP candidate to Obama: 'Go to hell'

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    RightNYC,

    Your link doesn't work. Still, the segment you did post makes a valid argument. The national TV airwaves have been getting alittle more risque where politics are concerned, and with with the people on both sides of the political isle having the ability to record conversations in the palm of their hands it's no wonder we're hearing more and more "inappropriate language" in the media from politicians.

    Still, I can handle the occasional censored vulgarity here and there. What I'm finding truly offensive is the rabid display of disrespect being shown towards the Office of the President of the United States. It's as if some people no longer hold the office with the highest regard anymore. It's like I said in another thread just yesterday, "dislike the man and his policies, but don't disrespect the Office".
    The word filter blocks out part of the address, you have to type the last word in.

    And I'm open to the argument that people are showing an increased level of disrespect to the office of the president now, but I think that it's more reasonable to assume that it just wasn't reported to the same degree back then.

    At a rally of supporters, this guy said that the papers would describe him as telling Obama to go to hell. Think back to the 70's, the 50's, or the 30's and imagine the types of things that politicians must have said during meetings with their supporters. I don't doubt for a second that Presidents, Senators and SC Justices alike were freely characterized as bastards, pricks, assholes, homos, communists, fascists, and [insert minority group or enemy nation]-lovers. I would be astonished if there were any president in history who wasn't disrespected by a political opponent during a speech. I think that the difference is just that back in the 30's, opposition researchers weren't following candidates around with video cameras.
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    Re: GOP candidate to Obama: 'Go to hell'

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Still, I can handle the occasional censored vulgarity here and there. What I'm finding truly offensive is the rabid display of disrespect being shown towards the Office of the President of the United States. It's as if some people no longer hold the office with the highest regard anymore. It's like I said in another thread just yesterday, "dislike the man and his policies, but don't disrespect the Office".
    considering the last 3-4 men who have held the office, respect is a bit hard to come by. A POS is a POS, whether he is POTUS or a greeter at walmart
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