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    Re: Full-Body Scan Technology Deployed In Street-Roving Vans

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Even if this is true, so what? As I pointed out, it doesnt work very well for that purpose.
    They get everyone used to x-ray vans and alleviate peoples fears by saying oh the technology is not that great. Then one day a better more penetrating x-ray technology comes along and they use that in the vans. No one says **** because they are already used to the x-ray vans spying on them. I do not think you have any idea of how baby steps or incrementation works.They start off with something small to get people used to the idea of it and work their way up to something bigger and people get used to it and they work up to something even more bigger and people get used to it. This is why 2nd amendment proponents oppose gun control laws.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Full-Body Scan Technology Deployed In Street-Roving Vans

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    They get everyone used to x-ray vans and alleviate peoples fears by saying oh the technology is not that great. Then one day a better more penetrating x-ray technology comes along and they use that in the vans. No one says **** because they are already used to the x-ray vans spying on them. I do not think you have any idea of how baby steps or incrementation works.They start off with something small to get people used to the idea of it and work their way up to something bigger and people get used to it and they work up to something even more bigger and people get used to it. This is why 2nd amendment proponents oppose gun control laws.
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    Re: Full-Body Scan Technology Deployed In Street-Roving Vans

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Paranoid much?
    Some people like their privacy. Do you find that difficult to understand?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Full-Body Scan Technology Deployed In Street-Roving Vans

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    The companies who make and market these technologies have no moral fiber.
    companies are entities......no, they have no moral fiber.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Full-Body Scan Technology Deployed In Street-Roving Vans

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Paranoid much?
    I do not like the idea of x-ray vehicles driving around town that can spy on people's vehicles,businesses and homes. Technology improves and just because it allegedly may not be that good right now is no reason to let the government use it on American citizens.
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    Re: Full-Body Scan Technology Deployed In Street-Roving Vans

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not like the idea of x-ray vehicles driving around town that can spy on people's vehicles,businesses and homes. Technology improves and just because it allegedly may not be that good right now is no reason to let the government use it on American citizens.
    Are you deaf? The technology doesn't work that way. Hell, I'd say it's a stretch to say it works at all. Yes it'll help you find hidden cargo or people, but this is nowhere near V For Vendetta spy-van technology and if that technology becomes available and comes into use, then we deal with it.
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    Re: Full-Body Scan Technology Deployed In Street-Roving Vans

    This technology has been around and used for much longer than most people would dream. It can be driven down your street and look into your house and see exactly what you are doing.

    The same system is used to scan steel cargo containers.

    The bad thing is that it uses GAMA Rays and may be exposing people to danger. Not to mention it's use on the general publis needs to be challenged because i believe it to be and unwarranted invasion of privacy and unreasonable search that we are supposed to be protected from under the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution, but in recent years more and more of our rights are being swept aside in the name of safety and security.

    In the immortal words of Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up Liberty for a little security deserve neither."

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    Re: Full-Body Scan Technology Deployed In Street-Roving Vans

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Are you deaf?

    Are you ****ing stupid? Think about the question you just typed.


    The technology doesn't work that way. Hell, I'd say it's a stretch to say it works at all.
    You do realize that technology improves over time?

    Yes it'll help you find hidden cargo or people, but this is nowhere near V For Vendetta spy-van technology and if that technology becomes available and comes into use, then we deal with it.
    So your excuse is since its not that effective now then it is okay for them to have x-ray vans driving around? You do not think that this would condition people to accepting the idea that the government can just easily spy on them? There are idiots who believe that you have no expectation of privacy once you set foot outside your home,so in their minds it is okay for the government to spy on you.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Full-Body Scan Technology Deployed In Street-Roving Vans

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Are you ****ing stupid? Think about the question you just typed.
    I'm well aware of what I typed.

    You do realize that technology improves over time?
    You mean...there's no technology fairy!? NOOOOOOO!

    So your excuse is since its not that effective now then it is okay for them to have x-ray vans driving around? You do not think that this would condition people to accepting the idea that the government can just easily spy on them? There are idiots who believe that you have no expectation of privacy once you set foot outside your home,so in their minds it is okay for the government to spy on you.
    Should we ban RFID chips because the technology could be used to inject them into humans and track them. Tattooing should also be illegal because it could eventually be used to tag humans with reactive ink that will identify people based on their political affiliations and allow them to be tracked by drones.

    Banning something based on where it could potentially go is completely pointless because you can twist something to go anywhere you want and you cant be proved wrong.

    It's a crappy argument
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    Re: Full-Body Scan Technology Deployed In Street-Roving Vans

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    They get everyone used to x-ray vans and alleviate peoples fears by saying oh the technology is not that great. Then one day a better more penetrating x-ray technology comes along and they use that in the vans. No one says **** because they are already used to the x-ray vans spying on them. I do not think you have any idea of how baby steps or incrementation works.They start off with something small to get people used to the idea of it and work their way up to something bigger and people get used to it and they work up to something even more bigger and people get used to it. This is why 2nd amendment proponents oppose gun control laws.
    One application of a mobile scanner could be to scan a suspicious vehicle, or a vehicle that is known to contain explosives. But I'm just as suspicous as you as to how the government will use this mobile technology. The vehicle should be clearly marked and should only be used in very specific cases.
    "There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, it to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution." —John Adams

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