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    Re: A turning point for American healthcare.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Why make it a requirement?
    Those who don't understand why it has to be a requirement in order to work do not understand health insurance. Or, for that matter, insurance of ANY kind.
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    Re: A turning point for American healthcare.

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    - Your right on one thing, the only way is up, for premiums that is. How can people be so gullible to think health care can be free?
    I have Blue Cross/Blue Shield and my prescription price has gone way up. My son is only monthly meds and altogether, insurance used to pay almost of of it and my out of pocket used to be less than $20.00. Now.. the same meds are $72.00 out of pocket.

    The company I work for is trying to find new insurance because BC/BS will be so high, more than half the employees would not be able to afford the premiums and the portion the company picks up... well... it's too high for them as well.

    Thanks for nothing.
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    Re: A turning point for American healthcare.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    [Who thinks it is free? Isn't that more an invention of people opposing reform?
    A buncha people do...LOL!!!!
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    Re: A turning point for American healthcare.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A buncha people do...LOL!!!!
    I doubt that. At least not serious people.

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    Re: A turning point for American healthcare.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Why make it a requirement?



    Sorry but the "fear mongering misinformation" is not the cause for the crappy HCR that the democrats passed. What people said had no effect on what was put into that bill. Indeed much of it was put in before people even had an inkling of what was in it. Thanks to the "transparency" (/sarcasm) that was allowed while they were working on it.
    Without a public option, you have to requrie insurence companies to take everyone. The only way to make that work is to have everyone insured, so you have to have the mandate.

    And no, the misinformation that killed the public option played a major role in what we ended up with. Certainly we can also blame republican resistence and democrat lack of backbone, but there is no dobt that the misinformation won too much of the day.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: A turning point for American healthcare.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Those who don't understand why it has to be a requirement in order to work do not understand health insurance. Or, for that matter, insurance of ANY kind.
    Nope. Making it a requirement makes the risk pool more unhealthy, not less. This means everyone pays more, not less than the completely unqualified authors of the health care turd of a bill speculated.
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    Re: A turning point for American healthcare.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Nope. Making it a requirement makes the risk pool more unhealthy, not less. This means everyone pays more, not less than the completely unqualified authors of the health care turd of a bill speculated.
    Nope. Making it a requirement makes the risk pool MORE healthy, not less. Unless you believe that there are more unhealthy people in the U.S. than healthy... Or unless you believe the majority of uninsured people are unhealthy, in which case, post your link.
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    Re: A turning point for American healthcare.

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    In response to the "Obama I don't really care about your Health Kill Granny plan" we have already seen rates go up substantially and now I read that many Insurance Co. are dropping Child policies to avoid the new rules.

    This tells me the best course is for a more pragmatic Health Care plan that doen't have 13 or more new taxes hidden in 2000 plus pages, of garbage.

    The republicans actually have a better idea for after we get rid of the Obama plan after the Nov. Election.

    I only hope they follow through with what they are saying now. We could see much of the damage of the last two plus years reversed with a little luck.
    sure they do.......that's why they did something about healthcare when they could. lmao.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: A turning point for American healthcare.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    I have Blue Cross/Blue Shield and my prescription price has gone way up. My son is only monthly meds and altogether, insurance used to pay almost of of it and my out of pocket used to be less than $20.00. Now.. the same meds are $72.00 out of pocket.

    The company I work for is trying to find new insurance because BC/BS will be so high, more than half the employees would not be able to afford the premiums and the portion the company picks up... well... it's too high for them as well.

    Thanks for nothing.
    uh-huh...and for some reason you think that bc bs is in business for fun? my costs have been going up since BEFORE any healthcare reform, of which most doesn't take effect for quite some time.

    insurance companies make money on investing YOUR premium dollars, and when the market is stagnant, their earnings are stagnant, so they look for ways to cut costs. that has nothing to do with obama.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: A turning point for American healthcare.

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    - Your right on one thing, the only way is up, for premiums that is. How can people be so gullible to think health care can be free?
    Premiums will go up, but not at the rate they have been going up for the last few decades. Last year Health Premiums went up by over 10%. With this health care bill in place, premiums are expected to go up 14% over the next 4 years. That is a vast improvement.
    Reality tends to have a liberal bias.

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