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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yet, conservative posters act like this was definitely illegal. Hence the discussion.
    I don't recall any Conservative posters acting like, "this was definitely illegal". Care to point out those posts?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I wouldn't want that much money, too much of headache trying keeping track of it all. It's all I can do to keep track of what I got.
    Be that as it may, it's not your's, and damn sure not the government's place to tell them how much money they can make.

    Legal, or not, it's nothing but lowdown dirty politics to dig up their tax info and go public with it. It goes to show just how anti-business this adminstration really is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Chill out and wipe the spittle off your chin... Holden is only saying that "IF" the administration obtained tax information from the IRS, then privacy laws were "possibly" broken.
    And Holden is a dumb piece of ****. The fact that a bunch of you jumped on board without first reading what the Administration said and checking to see if they did actually reveal any private information shows just how partisan you people are.

    It's hilarious how several of you think that calling up a registration office to ask for public information and then accessing the freely available IRS code is a crime.

    Look. I just called Microsoft a C corp and said they pay Corporate taxes. According to the OP, I'm a criminal! Stupid.

    But then again, many of you simply should not be talking about taxes or legal matters in any way, shape or form.

    The administration should piss them off enough so they file. That way actual private information enters the court's records and becomes accessible to the public. And THEN the administration will have a field day. Koch would be a complete and total moron to actually go to court. Getting Koch's notoriously private attitude to breakdown in a record court session would make Democrats jump for joy. A lawsuit is the absolute last thing Koch should want.
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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't recall any Conservative posters acting like, "this was definitely illegal". Care to point out those posts?
    Read the first post. And read your own. And Councilman's

    By all standards of legal and tax matters, the administration did nothing illegal.

    It's hilarious it took you so long to figure out that registration filings are one, publicly accessible, and two tell you what tax structure an organization falls under.

    Structure defines function. Didn't you learn that in biology 101?
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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Yeah, and liberal posters act like it was definitely legal for Obama to have the info.
    It was. Unless you think that calling a state's registration office up and asking them for public information and then using the internet to access the freely avaliable IRS code is a crime.

    Maybe you think that me posting the legally required to be public 990 was a crime too?

    It is possible to have a discussion without the name calling.
    It is possible to have a discussion with people who have demonstrated a massive raging ignorance of the subject coupled with hatred of actually learning about the relevant legal code?

    Know why I'm making fun of you? Because reasonable people would have first looked up to see if what the administration said was illegal. None of you did that. You just assumed they violated the law and ran with it.
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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Be that as it may, it's not your's, and damn sure not the government's place to tell them how much money they can make.
    Where did I say it was, Mr. Strawman?

    Legal, or not, it's nothing but lowdown dirty politics to dig up their tax info and go public with it. It goes to show just how anti-business this adminstration really is.
    Hmm, you don't say. So voter suppression, fraud and corruption is considered good politics in your eyes?

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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Be that as it may, it's not your's, and damn sure not the government's place to tell them how much money they can make.
    That's not entirely true. For the longest time states banned perpetual trusts under the notion that they could in theory consolidate vast sums of assets for people who did nothing to earn them other then being born into the right family. The availibity of dynastic trusts is now growing but are questionable.

    Legal, or not, it's nothing but lowdown dirty politics to dig up their tax info and go public with it. It goes to show just how anti-business this adminstration really is.
    So it's dirty to look up the backgrounds on people who are against you? So it was dirty for the Republicans to dig up Edward's cheating? Or all that crap on Kerry when he was running? Let's see just how hypocritical you can get. If a Republican does this, it's okay. But if a Democrat does, it's dirty. Typical Adpst. Partisan up to the tips of your hair. What IS dirty is the kind of crap Rove pulled on McCain during the 2000 primary where he started a rumor that his adopted daughter was actually his love child with a black hooker. THAT was dirty.

    And how exactly is this anti-business?
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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    That's not entirely true. For the longest time states banned perpetual trusts under the notion that they could in theory consolidate vast sums of assets for people who did nothing to earn them other then being born into the right family. The availibity of dynastic trusts is now growing but are questionable.



    So it's dirty to look up the backgrounds on people who are against you? So it was dirty for the Republicans to dig up Edward's cheating? Or all that crap on Kerry when he was running? Let's see just how hypocritical you can get. If a Republican does this, it's okay. But if a Democrat does, it's dirty. Typical Adpst. Partisan up to the tips of your hair. What IS dirty is the kind of crap Rove pulled on McCain during the 2000 primary where he started a rumor that his adopted daughter was actually his love child with a black hooker. THAT was dirty.

    And how exactly is this anti-business?
    Far be it from me to want to cast aspersions on you but when you say such outlandishly foolish and blatant a lie as:
    So it was dirty for the Republicans to dig up Edward's cheating?
    you run the risk of being seen in the eyes of some as a less than all there type, and I am being nice as I can here.

    You have to stop making things up to suit your own partisan wish list.

    The Jon Edwards is a cheating scum bag story was chased down and he was exposed by the NATIONAL ENQUIRER.

    A key owner of the Enquirer is a prominent New York investment banker and one of Hillary Clinton's key backers, Roger Altman. Altman was an official in the first Clinton administration, and in no (bleeping) way a dirty or any other kind of Republican.

    I hope that now before you make wild claims you'll know what the hell you're talking about before you open mouth and insert foot.
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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Far be it from me to want to cast aspersions on you but when you say such outlandishly foolish and blatant a lie as: you run the risk of being seen in the eyes of some as a less than all there type, and I am being nice as I can here.

    You have to stop making things up to suit your own partisan wish list.

    The Jon Edwards is a cheating scum bag story was chased down and he was exposed by the NATIONAL ENQUIRER.

    A key owner of the Enquirer is a prominent New York investment banker and one of Hillary Clinton's key backers, Roger Altman. Altman was an official in the first Clinton administration, and in no (bleeping) way a dirty or any other kind of Republican.

    I hope that now before you make wild claims you'll know what the hell you're talking about before you open mouth and insert foot.
    But Edwards didn't run on a platform of "conservative family values" and he isn't running for office now. But the LYING, CHEATING, SCUMBAG, ADULTERER, SEN. DAVID VITTER, is.....

    David Vitter - Prostitution Scandals

    Vitter was chased down and exposed by Larry Flynt, the owner of HUSTLER MAGAZINE and the guy who saved free speech so the Enquirer could keep exposing their thang.

    Who helps fund David Vitter? Why da Koch's do, who else?

    How Senator Vitter Battled the EPA Over Formaldehyde’s Link to Cancer - ProPublica

    Do you really believe these tea bag politicians give a fig about you?

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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    But Edwards didn't run on a platform of "conservative family values" and he isn't running for office now. But the LYING, CHEATING, SCUMBAG, ADULTERER, SEN. DAVID VITTER, is.....

    David Vitter - Prostitution Scandals

    Vitter was chased down and exposed by Larry Flynt, the owner of HUSTLER MAGAZINE and the guy who saved free speech so the Enquirer could keep exposing their thang.

    Who helps fund David Vitter? Why da Koch's do, who else?

    How Senator Vitter Battled the EPA Over Formaldehyde’s Link to Cancer - ProPublica

    Do you really believe these tea bag politicians give a fig about you?
    do you believe uber-wealthy dems like Boxer, Kerry, etc care about you other than pandering to you to get your vote by pretending that they want to stick it to the "rich"?

    an adulterer who is not going to jack up my taxes, further destroy American economic freedom etc is far preferrable to a chaste marxist tax hiking schemer



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