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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    But you constantly fail to connect the dots. Filings are determined by legal registration. And those legal registrations are public information. Therefore, anyone, including YOU, can call up a state's registry office, ask what the legal formation of Company XYZ is and then look up the relevant tax code to see what general implications are relevant to them. Just like some staffer did in the Obama Administration. He grabbed his phone. Looked up the phone number for the Texas registry office and made a call. For FREE.

    I keep referencing Microsof to show just how absurd you are. You are explicitly arguing that looking up Microsoft's registration up online (or calling the Washington Registry office), seeing they are a C-Corp and then looking up the C corp relevant tax code is a violation of the Privacy Act. Are you wrong? 100%. Are you willing to admit it? Not a chance in Hell.
    Chill out and wipe the spittle off your chin... Holden is only saying that "IF" the administration obtained tax information from the IRS, then privacy laws were "possibly" broken.
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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Chill out and wipe the spittle off your chin... Holden is only saying that "IF" the administration obtained tax information from the IRS, then privacy laws were "possibly" broken.
    Yet, conservative posters act like this was definitely illegal. Hence the discussion.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yet, conservative posters act like this was definitely illegal. Hence the discussion.
    Yeah, and liberal posters act like it was definitely legal for Obama to have the info.

    It is possible to have a discussion without the name calling. Hence the comment to the person quoted in my reply.

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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Fortunately, only a small minority react to your kind of partisan, political garbage.

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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Great ... a certain poster is probably gonna slide right off her chair when she sees this thread ...
    LOL You betcha.

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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    I think if Koch's lawyers are going to charge the government with illegality they might want to consider charging Forbes magazine as well. How else would Forbes know that the Koch's were the top wealthiest men in the country if they didn't see their tax information? The government can just say they got the information from Forbes.

    #9 David Koch - The Forbes 400 Richest Americans 2009 - Forbes.com

    Did I mention Steve Forbes is on the board of directors for Americans for Prosperity?
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    rolleyes Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    How else would Forbes know that the Koch's were the top wealthiest men in the country if they didn't see their tax information?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Forbes 400 Methodology
    Our flagship Forbes 400 comes out once a year. But throughout the year our reporters meet with the list candidates and their handlers and interview employees, rivals, attorneys, ex-spouses and securities analysts. We keep track of their moves: the deals they negotiate, the land they're selling, the paintings they're buying, the causes they give to. Securities & Exchange Commission documents, court records, probate records, tax records, federal financial disclosures and Web and print stories--we dig through them all. In calculating wealth, we put a price on all assets, including stakes in public and privately held companies, real estate, art, yachts and planes. For the first time, this year we have also systematically collected data on billionaires' eight different categories of passions and pursuits. In these pages we call out these personal interests with icons next to people's names, space allowing. (A complete list is available at The Richest People in America - Forbes.com.)

    When we value this crowd, we take a hard look at debt. Not that we pretend to know what is listed on everyone's private balance sheet, though some folks do provide that information. Our estimates of public fortunes are a snapshot of wealth on Aug. 25, when we locked in net worths and ranking. Some on our list will become richer or poorer within weeks--even days--of publication. Privately held companies are valued by coupling estimates of revenues or profits with prevailing price-to-revenues or price-to-earnings ratios for similar public companies. We have not included dispersed fortunes (as in those of the Du Ponts and Kennedys) when individual net worths are below our minimum. But we do include wealth belonging to a member's immediate relatives if the wealth can ultimately be traced to one living individual; in that case "& family" indicates that the number shown includes money belonging to more than one person.
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    Did I mention Steve Forbes is on the board of directors for Americans for Prosperity?
    Relevance? None.

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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    "....the deals they negotiate, the land they're selling, the paintings they're buying, the causes they give to. Securities & Exchange Commission documents, court records, probate records, tax records, federal financial disclosures ..."
    Well, there you go, Forbes had access to their "tax records" and "federal financial disclosures".

    Relevance? None.
    Well, yes it most certainly does, since we're also talking about American's for Prosperity.

    Speaking of which....


    ColoradoPols.com:: Americans for Prosperity, GOP Implicated in Wisconsin Vote-Caging Plot

    If that's the case and does appear so, then the Koch's tax information and funding for AFP will become evidence in a criminal investigation for voter suppression and fraud.

    Where's yer billions now, Kochs? nyah nyah nyaah
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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Where's yer billions now, Kochs? nyah nyah nyaah
    Envy is a terrible thing.

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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Envy is a terrible thing.
    I wouldn't want that much money, too much of headache trying keeping track of it all. It's all I can do to keep track of what I got.

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