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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Americans for Prosperity is a tax exempted organization filing form 990. Which by law is publicly accessible.

    Furthermore, Koch Industries has one of the largest private businesses in America for at least a decade. If Koch is structured as a S Corp, then it doesn't pay corporate level taxes (aside from a few S corp special taxes).

    Telling people what legal structure Koch Industries is and then summarizing the tax implications of that structure is not illegal any more then I saying Microsoft is an C corp and pays corporate taxes. Anyone can go down to the registration place where Koch Industries is registered and look up their legal structure. While is it possible that KI pays corporate level taxes via election, it doesn't make any sense for them to do so.

    This thread is nothing more then an epic gross failure to understand the concept of legal information disclosure and tax code by people who really should not discuss taxes.
    If Koch is an S corp, then they should fall under the protections of The Privacy Act, since the share holders report income and loss on their individual tax returns.
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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Somebody didn't read the thread.
    That tends to be the problem with being a partisan hack.
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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If Koch is an S corp, then they should fall under the protections of The Privacy Act, since the share holders report income and loss on their individual tax returns.
    And nothing the adminstration said violates that. You, like the rest, are ignorant of the topic, the concept of legal disclosure and the tax code. I posted their 990. Under the crackpot logic given by others here, I just commited a crime. Despite the 990 being legally required to be avaliable to the public. Furthermore, S corp legal code, which is legally avaliable to all people states that S corps do not pay normal corporate level taxes. So the Adminstration leveling that Koch doesn't pay corporate tax is entirely legal and highly likely to be true. The number of S corps that make the election to pay corporate taxes is pretty small for obvious reasons to those who actually understand the tax code and don't get their "information" from crackpot blogs.

    It is amazing what ignorance + stupidity + hatred will do to people. This thread is an excellent example of when logic, reason and intelligence are not practiced.

    It's really best for the rest of you not to talk about legal or tax issues entirely.
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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    And nothing the adminstration said violates that. You, like the rest, are ignorant of the topic, the concept of legal disclosure and the tax code. I posted their 990. Under the crackpot logic given by others here, I just commited a crime. Despite the 990 being legally required to be avaliable to the public. Furthermore, S corp legal code, which is legally avaliable to all people states that S corps do not pay normal corporate level taxes. So the Adminstration leveling that Koch doesn't pay corporate tax is entirely legal and highly likely to be true. The number of S corps that make the election to pay corporate taxes is pretty small for obvious reasons to those who actually understand the tax code and don't get their "information" from crackpot blogs.

    It is amazing what ignorance + stupidity + hatred will do to people. This thread is an excellent example of when logic, reason and intelligence are not practiced.

    It's really best for the rest of you not to talk about legal or tax issues entirely.
    You oughta know, first hand.
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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Says the guy who sided with the group who demonstrated sheer ignorance of the topic against me who actually knows what I'm talking about.

    Your side just argued that using any search function on a government site or office is a criminal offense.

    And of course you fail to actually address my point. as usual.
    Last edited by obvious Child; 09-25-10 at 05:21 PM.
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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    It is amazing what ignorance + stupidity + hatred will do to people. This thread is an excellent example of when logic, reason and intelligence are not practiced.

    It's really best for the rest of you not to talk about legal or tax issues entirely.
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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    According to the logic given in post #1,

    Using this site and this site is a crime.

    Furthermore, Universities in the past when they made their accounting students by printed copies of the IRS Code were committing crimes too. And every time a student looked something up, that was a crime too. And the IRS was an accomplice to those crimes by giving the code to book publishers to print. And every state office of registration is committing a crime by allowing people to legally look up the registration of companies in their books. And everyone who looks up publicly available 990s is committing a crime. And Congress who legislated that 990s be made public are accomplices to such crimes.

    I'm going to make fun of every one of you for this total epic fail.
    Last edited by obvious Child; 09-26-10 at 08:30 PM.
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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    According to the logic given in post #1,

    Using this site and this site is a crime.

    Furthermore, Universities in the past when they made their accounting students by printed copies of the IRS Code were committing crimes too. And every time a student looked something up, that was a crime too. And the IRS was an accomplice to those crimes by giving the code to book publishers to print. And every state office of registration is committing a crime by allowing people to legally look up the registration of companies in their books. And everyone who looks up publicly available 990s is committing a crime. And Congress who legislated that 990s be made public are accomplices to such crimes.

    I'm going to make fun of every one of you for this total epic fail.
    Are you for real? Where did that even come from?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Koch Industries Lawyer to White House: How Did You Get Our Tax Information?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Are you for real? Where did that even come from?
    Perhaps, you unlike Ockham, should read the thread before posting. Koch's dumb ass lawyer asserted that the Administration broke privacy laws in what they stated. Except that the administration merely summarized section S of the code after looking up section S of the code. By saying that the administration broke privacy laws, they are arguing that by looking up section S of the tax code, that was a violation of privacy laws. Thus, anyone who looks up various tax code sections has committed a crime. I'm merely taking the truly asinine argument given by Kock's stupid lawyer and supported by various ignorant partisans here to show how completely absurd they are.

    Do I think that looking up various tax code sections is a crime? Not a chance. But I also think Koch's lawyer is completely full of ****. But that doesn't stop me from making fun of his total idiocy.

    I can see why most of the partisans abandoned this thread. It's total epic fail on their part.
    Last edited by obvious Child; 09-26-10 at 11:59 PM.
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