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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    I'm well aware of today's venom. It's out there like Never before in my life at least and it's more Cultural than ever - so quite possibly in 1992 Pat Buchanan had it totally right in that Houston speech that so many Progressive's denounced.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Racine View Post
    I Voted Against Gore and Kerry 4 years apart. I Voted against Bill Clinton twice . I also recognize exactly how Ross Perot opened the door real wide for the Clinton era to begin and Bill & Hillary just possibly brought this country past the Point of No Return.
    that's just ridiculous. years of peace and porsperity. brink of destruction. lol.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I cannot believe anyone would be shocked at this. The average American voter has no idea what is actually going on in their government. They tune in to spin-doctors and partisan hacks for their information. Political ads from both sides are extremely misleading and full of lies. If a country is not motivated enough to even keep-up with what is going on, is it so shocking to hear they think they are more in-line with Palin? She does not talk in details, rather she regurgitates platitudes that strike a chord with the down-home, average "joe's" and that is what keeps her popular.
    I think your assessment is totally wrong. It may have been correct a couple yrs ago. However I think the American people are awake now and educating themselves on what is going on in their country.
    We will be seeing enthusiastic and informed voters next month and in 2012.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I think your assessment is totally wrong. It may have been correct a couple yrs ago. However I think the American people are awake now and educating themselves on what is going on in their country.
    We will be seeing enthusiastic and informed voters next month and in 2012.
    Well if voters continue to vote as they have for the past 60 years, which they probably will, then the average voter is woefully unaware of most things. The know just enough to barely make a semi-informed decision.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Well if voters continue to vote as they have for the past 60 years, which they probably will, then the average voter is woefully unaware of most things. The know just enough to barely make a semi-informed decision.
    I think people are much more informed today than ever before. Remember the town hall meetings? The people were more informed about what was in the healthcare bill than their politicians were.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I think people are much more informed today than ever before. Remember the town hall meetings? The people were more informed about what was in the healthcare bill than their politicians were.
    Yeah on a single issue. Single issues do not show how informed a voter is, rather that they are a specialist in a certain area. In a whole voters just aren't that informed because to most people they spend their lives doing something else.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I think your assessment is totally wrong. It may have been correct a couple yrs ago. However I think the American people are awake now and educating themselves on what is going on in their country.
    We will be seeing enthusiastic and informed voters next month and in 2012.
    i'm afraid not. what i see is people parroting what their latest idols say........they don't seem to be educated. republicans are continuing to play on fear and socialism, NOT on fixing what might be wrong. just look at the tea party darlings....no platform to speak of, just words.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Ned Racine View Post
    I'm well aware of today's venom. It's out there like Never before in my life at least and it's more Cultural than ever - so quite possibly in 1992 Pat Buchanan had it totally right in that Houston speech that so many Progressive's denounced.
    Had it right, or was part of the problem? Pat was quite divisive back then.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I think people are much more informed today than ever before. Remember the town hall meetings? The people were more informed about what was in the healthcare bill than their politicians were.
    Yes I do remember, and the misinformation was and has been rampant.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I'm sorry, that makes no sense. Ras. has always been the most accurate in calling elections because they poll only likely voters. Takes some of the guess work out. Why would conservatives be more likely to vote?
    It's getting late and almost time for Red-Eye to come on. Maybe i'm just tired and don't get where you're coming from.
    Rasmussen isn't 'always' the most accurate in calling elections. It is the most accurate in elections where likely voters form a lord's share of the electorate.

    From wikipedia:

    Slate Magazine and The Wall Street Journal reported that Rasmussen Reports was one of the most accurate polling firms for the 2004 United States presidential election and 2006 United States general elections.[11][12][not in citation given] In 2004 Slate magazine "publicly doubted and privately derided" Rasmussen's use of recorded voices in electoral polls. However, after the election, they concluded that Rasmussen’s polls were among the most accurate in the 2004 presidential election.[13] According to Politico, Rasmussen's 2008 presidential-election polls "closely mirrored the election's outcome".[14]

    Near the end of the 2008 Presidential Election, progressive statistician Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight.com analyzed eight national presidential tracking polls. Silver concluded that while none was perfect, "Rasmussen – with its large sample size and high pollster rating – would probably be the one I'd want with me on a desert island."[15] By 2010, however, Silver's view of Rasmussen had changed. In an analysis posted at FiveThirtyEight.com on April 17, 2010, Silver concluded that since the end of the 2008 election cycle, Rasmussen's "house effect" was skewing its polling numbers and that "to believe that Rasmussen is getting it right: you also have to believe that almost everyone else is getting it wrong." Silver also disputed Rasmussen's suggestion that difference between his results and those of other polls can be explained by Rasmussen polling only "likely voters" rather than all adults.[16]
    A more elaborate criticism of the concept of "likely voters" can be found here.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1..._n_751560.html

    Although in the case of my argument, it is the reverse. I have little doubt the people who claim they are going to vote against Democrats are going to vote against Democrats, but there is ample reason to believe that people who are going to vote in favor of Democrats aren't reporting their intention. Regardless of regional affiliation, conservatives everywhere are marking themselves high on the "likely voter" list in a way Demoocrats aren't. It's sort of a way of over compensating for the helplessness of being the party out of power.

    As for why conservatives are more likely to vote, that's the recorded trend -- it is probably because they have stronger feelings about politics and a stronger faith in their preferred political party.
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