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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    true. for example, one of Palin's first acts on taking the governorship of Alaska was to veto a bill that would have denied healthcare and other benefits to homosexual partners of state employees. yet people jump all over her for being a far-right-wing conservative because she's open about being a Christian.
    Well, there you go. She's a bleeding heart liberal for sure now.


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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Obama has such a grasp on how business works he believes they should take loans to make payroll.
    and thinks that the cure for small businesses is to convince them to go further into debt.

    so that their monthly payments will be higher

    so that they will have less available funds

    which they will somehow magically translate into hiring more people.



    you ever get the impression they are simply throwing random s--t at a wall to see what sticks?

    THAT level of illiteracy is dangerous.
    indeed it is.

    No... it's called learning about Obama the candidate... a little late, but at least they have learned they were sold an ocean of BS.

    Now they can make an educated decision... whereas before, we had the Journolists keeping the electorate fairly ignorant. It's the only way he could win.
    well, he probably would have won without them. the economy tanking took McCain's presidential chances with it. it just would have been alot closer.

    but he won't have them in his pocket that thoroughly (or, probably, that organized in conspiracy form) in 2012.

    Geraldine Ferraro nailed him perfectly. Unfit for duty. She deserves a huge apology from Libs.
    truth. Clinton at least would not have been incompetent.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Well, there you go. She's a bleeding heart liberal for sure now.
    certainly not, but neither is she the carricature that folks like yourself and the media have pinned on her.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    And 52% of liberals are actually dumb enough to think Palin said this.
    antecdotally, my experience would suggest that that 52% estimate is way low.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    One of the shortcomings of Rasmussen is that a majority of "likely voters" are conservative, however, "likely voters" are not a better representation of the general voting pool of a given election than inconsistant voters, because "inconsistant voters" describes most Americans.

    "Likely voter" has no meaning, other than it refers to a person who will almost certainly vote, as opposed to the larger number of people who may or may not vote. Inconsistant voters are more important in elections than likely voters.
    given that inconsistent voters are most likely to be a factor in presidential elections, you are going to have a hard time squaring that claim with the round fact that Rasmussen was the most accurate pollster for the 2004 Election, the 2008 Election, and, just for some icing, the 2006 Election as well

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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    certainly not, but neither is she the carricature that folks like yourself and the media have pinned on her.
    No, she made herslf a carricature. She needed no help. And when she says dumb and dishonest things like death panels and her socialist rant, she desereves the criticism she gets. You misunderstanding the criticism doesn't make the criticism wrong.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    given that inconsistent voters are most likely to be a factor in presidential elections, you are going to have a hard time squaring that claim with the round fact that Rasmussen was the most accurate pollster for the 2004 Election, the 2008 Election, and, just for some icing, the 2006 Election as well
    Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight tends to not share your enthusiasm for Rasmussen.


    Although Rasmussen has certainly gotten a lot of things right, their high pollster rating was mostly based on their strong performance in 2004 and 2006. Their rating is likely to go down now that we've found their 2000 data, and are adding in the 2008 data, when their performance was mediocre.

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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    yeah, they were 'mediocre' in 2008.

    which i guess is one way of saying that they tied with Pew for first place.


    sorry folks, face it; Rasmussen has a good model for predicting elections.
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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, she made herslf a carricature. She needed no help. And when like death panels and her socialist rant, she desereves the criticism she gets. You misunderstanding the criticism doesn't make the criticism wrong.
    Perhaps the poster was looking for more intelligent comments of Sarah Palin, supported by actual facts, than "she says dumb and dishonest things".

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    Re: Rasmussen: Ď52 percent of voters say their views are more like Palinís than Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Considering that Palin dont know what her views are, then... well. are you saying that 52% of Americans are either just as stupid as Palin or that the poll it self was poorly worded?
    Well said.

    32% are too busy to answer the phone.

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