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    Re: Reporter: "Entire communities where they're vomiting blood" -- "Massive, massive

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    Re: Reporter: "Entire communities where they're vomiting blood" -- "Massive, massive

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    How do know this guy is a loon or what he is reporting isn't true?

    I understand that the dispersant is found in peoples pools which probably means it's coming down in the rain.
    A story this big, and we're getting it from... a youtube video from an obscure no name free lancer.

    Yeah, I bet if you listen to Coast to Coast AM they might cover this story too...
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    Re: Reporter: "Entire communities where they're vomiting blood" -- "Massive, massive

    Dahr Jamail is a pretty good writer; I've read a few of his books and keep up with his articles once in a while and they're usually well written and sourced. In this case I'd expect either the quote was taken out of context, Jamail was being polemical in order to further expose the severity of the situation, or both. When one says "entire communities vomiting blood" it doesn't mean that there's hundreds of people out in the streets constantly puking, as the image conjures; it just means that many people are sick, presumably from the effects of the dispersants (at least that is what Jamail is claiming here, I believe; I can't comment on the validity of that because I haven't looked into it.

    This just means people are getting sick, which we already know.
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    Re: Reporter: "Entire communities where they're vomiting blood" -- "Massive, massive

    UPDATED: BP oil spill Corexit dispersants suspected in widespread crop damage : Yobie Benjamin : City Brights
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    BP's favorite dispersant Corexit 9500 is being sprayed at the oil gusher on the ocean floor. Corexit is also being air sprayed across hundreds of miles of oil slicks all across the gulf. There have been widespread reports of oil cleanup crews reporting various injuries including respiratory distress, dizziness and headaches.

    Corexit 9500 is a solvent originally developed by Exxon and now manufactured by the Nalco of Naperville, Illinois (who by the way just hired some expensive lobbyists). Corexit is is four times more toxic than oil (oil is toxic at 11 ppm (parts per million), Corexit 9500 at only 2.61ppm).

    In a report written by Anita George-Ares and James R. Clark for Exxon Biomedical Sciences, Inc. titled "Acute Aquatic Toxicity of Three Corexit Products: An Overview" Corexit 9500 was found to be one of the most toxic dispersal agents ever developed.

    COREXIT, SALT WATER AND OIL DO NOT MIX WELL TOGETHER

    According to the Clark and George-Ares report, Corexit mixed with the higher gulf coast water temperatures becomes even more toxic.

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    Re: Reporter: "Entire communities where they're vomiting blood" -- "Massive, massive

    Chemtrails.
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    Re: Reporter: "Entire communities where they're vomiting blood" -- "Massive, massive

    I don't think it's a conspiracy theory to entertain the claim that Corexit could be considered hazardous to humans to some extent. I don't know why you're so adamant in your belief that it's absolutely clean and safe and that any other possibility is a conspiracy.

    I mean come on, the Material Safety Data Sheet for Corexit 9527 (one of the two primary dispersants used by the BP response team - the other being Corexit 9500) says the following:

    WARNING
    Eye and skin irritant. Repeated or excessive exposure to butoxyethanol may cause injury to red blood cells
    (hemolysis), kidney or the liver. Harmful by inhalation, in contact with skin and if swallowed.
    Do not get in eyes, on skin, on clothing. Do not take internally. Use with adequate ventilation. Wear suitable
    protective clothing. Keep container tightly closed. Flush affected area with water. Keep away from heat. Keep
    away from sources of ignition - No smoking

    SKIN CONTACT :
    Can cause moderate irritation. Harmful if absorbed through skin.

    INGESTION :
    May be harmful if swallowed. May cause liver and kidney effects and/or damage. There may be irritation to the
    gastro-intestinal tract
    .

    INHALATION :
    Harmful by inhalation. Repeated or prolonged exposure may irritate the respiratory tract.

    SYMPTOMS OF EXPOSURE :
    Acute :
    Excessive exposure may cause central nervous system effects, nausea, vomiting, anesthetic or narcotic effects.
    Chronic :
    Repeated or excessive exposure to butoxyethanol may cause injury to red blood cells (hemolysis), kidney or the
    liver.

    AGGRAVATION OF EXISTING CONDITIONS :
    Skin contact may aggravate an existing dermatitis condition.

    HUMAN HEALTH HAZARDS - CHRONIC :
    Contains ethylene glycol monobutyl ether (butoxyethanol). Prolonged and/or repeated exposure through inhalation
    or extensive skin contact with EGBE may result in damage to the blood and kidneys.
    Emphasis mine.
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    Re: Reporter: "Entire communities where they're vomiting blood" -- "Massive, massive

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I don't think it's a conspiracy theory to entertain the claim that Corexit could be considered hazardous to humans to some extent. I don't know why you're so adamant in your belief that it's absolutely clean and safe and that any other possibility is a conspiracy.

    I mean come on, the Material Safety Data Sheet for Corexist 9527 (one of the two primary dispersants used by the BP response team - the other being Corexit 9500) says the following:



    Emphasis mine.
    CHEMTRAILS!

    Oh wait these are actual chemicals that are actually being put into the ocean.

    I guess "LET'S INVESTIGATE THIS POSSIBILITY" isn't as catchy.
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    Re: Reporter: "Entire communities where they're vomiting blood" -- "Massive, massive

    Here's the Material Safety Data Sheet for Corexit 9500:

    SKIN CONTACT :
    May cause irritation with prolonged contact.

    INGESTION :
    Not a likely route of exposure. Can cause chemical pneumonia if aspirated into lungs following ingestion.

    INHALATION :
    Repeated or prolonged exposure may irritate the respiratory tract.

    SYMPTOMS OF EXPOSURE :
    Acute :
    A review of available data does not identify any symptoms from exposure not previously mentioned.
    Chronic :
    Frequent or prolonged contact with product may defat and dry the skin, leading to discomfort and dermatitis.

    AGGRAVATION OF EXISTING CONDITIONS :
    Skin contact may aggravate an existing dermatitis condition.
    Chemical pneumonia can cause "cough producing blood, nausea or abdominal pain, chest pain, flu symptoms" and other symptoms.

    Millions of barrels of Corexit were dumped and sprayed into the Gulf. That all settles in the water, contaminates the environment and washes up on shore. People living in the area are probably exposed to it on a regular basis and might even be ingesting it. So, again, I don't see anything ridiculous about saying the ingestion of hazardous chemicals would cause nausea, bloody vomiting or bloody stools.
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    Re: Reporter: "Entire communities where they're vomiting blood" -- "Massive, massive

    The media blackout on the gulf is shameful. More of this information would be mainstream knowledge otherwise. What is happening there is a crime against humanity.

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    Re: Reporter: "Entire communities where they're vomiting blood" -- "Massive, massive

    Quote Originally Posted by sokpupet View Post
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    IS there an actual news story to this? Is there any factual basis for these claims? If so this is huge. And looking at how this thread is already starting to break down...how can anyone view this as a partisan problem?

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