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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    If that's the case, I want a ban on fat people in revealing clothing, loud music, unleashed dogs, food, unsupervised children, etc.

    The list is very long of **** that I want banned in the park.
    "If I want to be a fat, fat fatty and shovel French Fries all day long, that is my choice. But oh oh, not so fast anymore. Because now we have the new fact, whether you like it or not, we have government health care now. … You know those fat people sitting on their couches? And I mean really fat. I don’t mean not like me. I mean the people who’s skin grows into the couch. … I say let them die. I say punish the person who’s been bringing them the milk shakes that allowed them to eat and not get up off the couch. Am I too harsh?" - Glenn Beck

    Will Beck's comment lose the tea partiers support?


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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Not allowed does not = not able. To be honest, i wouldn't want to smoke a j or drink a beer in Times Square.
    That's fine too. I would by no means force you to smoke or drink in Times Square.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Reason be, i have respect for people. I do not smoke weed or drink in front of people because i have no idea how they feel about it.
    Fair enough. It's a very good thing to be respectful of the people around you. I endorse the behavior. However, being respectful cannot and should not be enforced through government force. It's not illegal for one to be disrespectful, nor should it ever be. It's a great choice to choose to be respectful; but not everyone is going to make that choice. And just because people don't make that choice does not mean we can all of a sudden use government force to enforce "respectfulness".

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    If i had a child, and someone was someking a cigarette in their presence (much less a joint), i'd tell them to get lost.
    And you'd be more than free to do so.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Well, i could just take the ciggy out of your mouth and crush it....
    Or you could be responsible for yourself and walk the **** away from whatever it is that's bothering you.

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Again, its about respect. If only people had more respect for one another.
    If only indeed. If only, then we'd live in a much more cordial world. If if's and but's were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas. Fact is, not everyone will be respectful, but there's no law against being a jerk. You cannot force people to be respectful and if we live in a free society you'll have to understand that in reality not everyone will choose to be respectful. That's just a consequence of the system. Either make it not a free society or deal with it; those are the realistic "solutions". What do you want? Free and rude or Enslaved and cordial? I'll take the former.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    "If I want to be a fat, fat fatty and shovel French Fries all day long, that is my choice. But oh oh, not so fast anymore. Because now we have the new fact, whether you like it or not, we have government health care now. … You know those fat people sitting on their couches? And I mean really fat. I don’t mean not like me. I mean the people who’s skin grows into the couch. … I say let them die. I say punish the person who’s been bringing them the milk shakes that allowed them to eat and not get up off the couch. Am I too harsh?" - Glenn Beck

    Will Beck's comment lose the tea partiers support?

    What does Beck have to do with this?
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Well, i could just take the ciggy out of your mouth and crush it....
    That's fine, so long as you don't mind being pistol whipped.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    What does Beck have to do with this?
    Nothing, this person has been off topic the entire thread. Best to ignore her, trolls everywhere.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Nothing, this person has been off topic the entire thread. Best to ignore her, trolls everywhere.
    I don't even like the ****er.
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's fine too. I would by no means force you to smoke or drink in Times Square.
    Of course not.

    Fair enough. It's a very good thing to be respectful of the people around you. I endorse the behavior. However, being respectful cannot and should not be enforced through government force. It's not illegal for one to be disrespectful, nor should it ever be. It's a great choice to choose to be respectful; but not everyone is going to make that choice. And just because people don't make that choice does not mean we can all of a sudden use government force to enforce "respectfulness".
    Oh how i agree. I am more than capable of enforcing respectfulness

    And you'd be more than free to do so.
    Yep!
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's fine, so long as you don't mind being pistol whipped.
    With all due respect, in 99.999 % of cases, i would not be the one who got pistol whipped. But alas, you now have developed the need for government intervention.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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