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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    I don't see why this is such an issue. As it stands, im not allowed to smoke a paperless joint or drink a beer in Time Square. What makes smoking a cigarette so special?
    Because you should be allowed to smoke a paperless joint or drink a beer in Time Square; that's the direction you should be pushing. Not more and more intrusive government and more laws against us. At some point we have to understand what it means to live in a free society. And if we wish to keep it a free society, we're going to have to deal with the repercussions and responsibilities that come with it. This nanny state crap has got to go.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Why shouldn't you be able to smoke a j and drink a beer?
    ding ding ding ding! We have a winner! People are trying to excuse tyranny with tyranny. But just because unjust laws, stupid laws, or intrusive laws exist does not give credence to enacting more unjust, stupid, or intrusive laws. We need to get rid of laws, not create more.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Why shouldn't you be able to some a j and drink a beer?
    Never said i shouldn't, only that i am not allowed. One of my favorite moments this year was when my hometown in Northwest Indiana began carding everyone who purchases alcohol. That's right, even the 58 year old man with gray hair was carded. So while he was pissed, i thought it was great. Now, all voters in that area who purchase alcohol get to feel the same age discrimination i do.

    Eventually, voters will have enough and vote in people who actually represent their views/ideals/values. It sucks that others have to face the burden, but i guess this is how democracy works. Take the good with the bad right?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And that still has nothing to do with his correct usage of "statist".
    The first known usage of the term "statist" was in 1946. The JBS didn't come into existence until 1958.

    Hmm, I guess a Bircher used one of the Koch's super-duper-secret time machines to go back and invent the word prior to the JBS's formation.

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I have that same problem. These gals that bathe in perfume make me suffocate and my eyeballs pop out.

    So I just find somewhere else to be. Problem solved.
    Wait wait wait... you mean you're actually able to physically move yourself from a location wherein someone's presence is odorously offensive? All by yourself? Without calling the government to come and ban the person's presence? How do you manage that? Do you have special abilities that allow you to actually think and move for yourself? You're one of those Hero dudes, aren't you?



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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Never said i shouldn't, only that i am not allowed. One of my favorite moments this year was when my hometown in Northwest Indiana began carding everyone who purchases alcohol. That's right, even the 58 year old man with gray hair was carded. So while he was pissed, i thought it was great. Now, all voters in that area who purchase alcohol get to feel the same age discrimination i do.

    Eventually, voters will have enough and vote in people who actually represent their views/ideals/values. It sucks that others have to face the burden, but i guess this is how democracy works. Take the good with the bad right?
    I don't believe voters will do smart things.
    Just doesn't work like that.

    5 wrongs don't make a right, even if decided democratically.

    Stuff like this is moronic and irrational.
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Because you should be allowed to smoke a paperless joint or drink a beer in Time Square; that's the direction you should be pushing. Not more and more intrusive government and more laws against us. At some point we have to understand what it means to live in a free society. And if we wish to keep it a free society, we're going to have to deal with the repercussions and responsibilities that come with it. This nanny state crap has got to go.
    Not allowed does not = not able. To be honest, i wouldn't want to smoke a j or drink a beer in Times Square. Reason be, i have respect for people. I do not smoke weed or drink in front of people because i have no idea how they feel about it. If i had a child, and someone was someking a cigarette in their presence (much less a joint), i'd tell them to get lost.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    ding ding ding ding! We have a winner! People are trying to excuse tyranny with tyranny. But just because unjust laws, stupid laws, or intrusive laws exist does not give credence to enacting more unjust, stupid, or intrusive laws. We need to get rid of laws, not create more.
    Again, its about respect. If only people had more respect for one another.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Again, its about respect. If only people had more respect for one another.
    Indeed. If only people respected the fact that they don't have the right not to be offended by my presence. If you're in my presence and you're offended by anything I'm doing, guess what? GTFO of my presence. You have no right to ask me to accomodate YOUR self-imposed offenses.

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Indeed. If only people respected the fact that they don't have the right not to be offended by my presence. If you're in my presence and you're offended by anything I'm doing, guess what? GTFO of my presence. You have no right to ask me to accomodate YOUR self-imposed offenses.
    Well, i could just take the ciggy out of your mouth and crush it....
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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