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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Bloomberg is a statist tyrant, this is all part of the incrementalism we warned about years ago.
    Statist. That's Bircher talk. Are you a Bircher?

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Bloomberg is a statist tyrant, this is all part of the incrementalism we warned about years ago.
    ..and the city re-elected the Feudal Lord because he was able to strongarm the city council. Granted things couldve been worse if he decided to run for Governor.
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Statist. That's Bircher talk. Are you a Bircher?
    There's only about five Birchers left, and I doubt the Rev is one of them.

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Technocratic View Post
    Boo hoo hoo. Sniffle.

    Get over it. Smokers are annoying, and I support any law that pisses them off on that principle alone. If you want to smoke, smoke alone around no one else. Even in "outdoor" areas, it becomes more than annoying, They stink up the public areas with their filthy habits.
    Authoratative jerks should be shot.
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    ..and the city re-elected the Feudal Lord because he was able to strongarm the city council. Granted things couldve been worse if he decided to run for Governor.



    It wasn't even a strongman, it was a quid pro quo.... Lets vote each other out of term limits though the people overwhelmingly voted for them....


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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Authoratative jerks should be shot.
    No they should be forced to fight Bears.
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    There's only about five Birchers left, and I doubt the Rev is one of them.
    Glenn Beck is a Bircher. He's the one that started using the term "statist" on his show along with "socialist, Marxist and communist, and now all the little FoxNews monkey's are using that term too. So if Rev wasnt a Bircher, he is one now if he's going to use Bircher talk to help spread Bircher paranoia.

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Glenn Beck is a Bircher. He's the one that started using the term "statist" on his show along with "socialist, Marxist and communist, and now all the little FoxNews monkey's are using that term too. So if Rev wasnt a Bircher, he is one now if he's going to use Bircher talk to help spread Bircher paranoia.
    Statist is anyone who wants the government gun to be involved in areas that the Constitution says they arent supposed to be invovled in.
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    I have to say, as a non-smoker and doctor I am personally biased in favour of this law. I hate having to share public spaces with smokers, even after I am making it clear to them that their smoking is bothering me. It is always I who has to get up and move, just because I don't want to be poisoned. I can even tolerate pot smoke way more than I can the poisonous stench of tobacco. If people are so hooked on nicotine, maybe they should administer it more directly, like with a patch, so that people nearby aren't getting dosed with carcinogens.
    I'm a non-smoker and a doctor too (heheh, we didn't specify medical doctor), I am definitely against this law. It acts against the people and freedom of choice. Tobacco is legal, that's all there is to it. These sorts of laws are unjust, and overstep the boundaries of government. We are free to make the choice to smoke or not to smoke. In public places like parks it can briefly smell bad as you walk by a smoker; but that's the worst of it. We can't start legislating on slight annoyances, we'll end up with so many laws that all of us will be doing something illegal at any given time. You can talk about being "poisoned", but the brief exposure isn't going to do much harm. You're taking well more damage just by being outside than you are by passing by a smoker. I think we should try to be less drama queens about certain things, pretending that some smoker is causing our death because we were exposed to diffuse smoke for 1 second. That's when we start loosing rational and logical thought. If you really don't like it, than you have to push to make it illegal. But as it remains legal, I see little to no rightful authority to prevent people from smoking outside.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Glenn Beck is a Bircher. He's the one that started using the term "statist" on his show along with "socialist, Marxist and communist, and now all the little FoxNews monkey's are using that term too. So if Rev wasnt a Bircher, he is one now if he's going to use Bircher talk to help spread Bircher paranoia.
    I've used "statist" as an accurate description of people and political platforms for much longer than Glenn Beck. Just because he uses it now doesn't mean that I or others who use the term correctly are somehow associated with him and his special brand of lunacy.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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