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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Aahhh jeez, I answered the wrong post. Pay no attention to the dingy broad in post #277. It's late and I should have gone to bed hours ago, so my apologies for saying you were "condensending."
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, the attitude that got smoking banned from private establishments was the holier-than-thou pussy attitude of people who couldn't accept personal choice. There is no just reason to infringe upon property rights the way that anti-smoking POS law went ahead and did. If people can't accept the responsibilities of freedom, I say get out of the gene pool.
    private facilities should have the right to choose to allow smoking. truly public facilities should be smoke free.

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    private facilities should have the right to choose to allow smoking. truly public facilities should be smoke free.
    Only if you assume people who do not like smoke will stop going to facilities where smoking is allowed. This however is not always true.

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    There was a show on the other day where they did a little experiment. They had an actor who had down syndrome stand in for a bagger at a grocery store. They then had another actor play the part of a customer who would heckle and make fun of him to other customers. The results? Even though (by testimony from interviews following the experiment) an overwhelming majority of people thought it was wrong, hardly anyone said a thing to the actor portraying the bigot. Here's what gets interesting; when they had an intimidating looking actor play the bigot part, it was only the women who stood up to him!
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post


    Aside from my use of ancedotal evidence what I said still stands. This thread is about both smokers and non-smokers. I should know since I am the one that started the thread.
    Do you want a cookie or something? Your statement is garbage because it is made under the basis of a fallacy.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Only if you assume people who do not like smoke will stop going to facilities where smoking is allowed. This however is not always true.
    Meaning that it's not that big of an issue to the people that patronize these establishments.

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Only if you assume people who do not like smoke will stop going to facilities where smoking is allowed. This however is not always true.

    Off topic:

    There was a show on the other day where they did a little experiment. They had an actor who had down syndrome stand in for a bagger at a grocery store. They then had another actor play the part of a customer who would heckle and make fun of him to other customers. The results? Even though (by testimony from interviews following the experiment) an overwhelming majority of people thought it was wrong, hardly anyone said a thing to the actor portraying the bigot. Here's what gets interesting; when they had an intimidating looking actor play the bigot part, it was only the women who stood up to him!
    I believe that.

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Only if you assume people who do not like smoke will stop going to facilities where smoking is allowed. This however is not always true.
    And that is their choice.....

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public View Post
    Though, of course, the liberal idiots want pot legalised - for reasons of personal freedom of course!
    Don't knock it if you haven't tried it...

    It's not habit forming, doesn't bum users out, and is a boon to those in pain and alleviates other medical problems...

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Don't knock it if you haven't tried it...

    It's not habit forming, doesn't bum users out, and is a boon to those in pain and alleviates other medical problems...

    ricksfolly
    It doesn't make it something that's really good for you though. If it's what you need to make you happy then you've got some psychological problems that need to be dealth with.

    I'm not talking about you specificially, just using the word you in general.

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Smoking anything isn't good for you, whether it's wacky tobacky or plain tobacco. Smoke inhalation is bad. That should be common sense.

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