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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, the attitude that got smoking banned from private establishments was the holier-than-thou pussy attitude of people who couldn't accept personal choice. There is no just reason to infringe upon property rights the way that anti-smoking POS law went ahead and did. If people can't accept the responsibilities of freedom, I say get out of the gene pool.
    Try it is more like smokers can't exercise personal responsibility and respect the fact that the MAJORITY of the people around them are NOT addicted to a poisonous weed...
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Those ****ing ****wads piss me off. How can we ban them from public spaces?
    Because they are PUBLIC spaces and EVERYONE has the right to enjoy them, not just those who are addicted to a cancer weed.
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Don't steal my property and we won't have problems. As I said, I won't initiate force, but I will reply with it if force is used against me.
    You are using "force" to subject us to your poison.
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    If I am enjoying myself with my family, we are settled down, enjoying a dinner or a conversation, why should WE have to move because an addict who is a slave to a weed decides to light up? I love how people say smokers have rights, but your rights end where they meet my nose. Nicotine is a known poison. Right, POISON. You are defending the right of people to casually spread poison in public areas. Sorry, I have absolutely NO sympathy for those people, NONE AT ALL... and if you can't accept restrictions to shield the rest of us from your slavery to the weed, then ban it...
    If you sat down with your friends where a smoker could come along and smoke then you no doubt went to a SMOKING restaurant. If you don't want that to happen then you do have a choice of going to a NON-SMOKING restaurant. You chose to go there. You had a choice. Anyone with any sense of self-responsibility would take that action and blame no one but themselves.

    Sorry, I have no sympathy for people that go to a smoking restaurant and then have the nerve to ***ch about it. If you can't accept your own responsibility to yourself then you deserve to be ignored.
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    They also no longer have the money to do so due to excessive fines and punishments associated with DUI. Thanks MADD...flipping PETA of the drunk driving world.
    Are you actually defending drunk drivers? You think people have the right to drive drunk? And you wonder why the government has to step in and protect those of us who make responsible decisions from people who won't make responsible decisions...
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    How do you feel about perfume? The stuff makes me sneeze like crazy.
    sneeze? sorry, but I love it when smokers bring up perfume... cigarette smoke is a POISON to EVERYONE!!! Perfume makes you sneeze... sorry if I am not all that sympathetic by comparing that to a known POISON
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Smokers should no more be burdened with these type of things, if we aren't going to do it to everyone.
    Except that I am forced to breathe in your smoke if you do it in my vicinity... I don't seriously think you should ban the obese from the beach as it only is objectional to my eyes and has no impact on my own health...
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    But the diesel is regulated as is the pollution emitted from them -- though I support stronger restrictions... furthermore, those vehicles serve a vital purpose to society, which smoking does not... but, if we want to ban diesel vehicles, or all pollution emmiting vehicles, I am sure I would get along better than most... I would have no problem getting on my bike every day to the countryside to get veggies and other foods or to work or to other places to get daily necessities... could you do that? I suspect most smokers could not do that so well and the Americans who are so fat that they can't even see their feet would not fare so well either... so BRING IT ON!!!
    I wish we could ban bicycles from the road.
    Your recreation gets in the way of my need to get places.
    I used to have your ilk come down my old country road and not get the heck out of the way.

    I'd so love you banners to get a taste of your own medicine.
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    If I am enjoying myself with my family, we are settled down, enjoying a dinner or a conversation, why should WE have to move because an addict who is a slave to a weed decides to light up? I love how people say smokers have rights, but your rights end where they meet my nose. Nicotine is a known poison. Right, POISON. You are defending the right of people to casually spread poison in public areas. Sorry, I have absolutely NO sympathy for those people, NONE AT ALL... and if you can't accept restrictions to shield the rest of us from your slavery to the weed, then ban it...
    First off, nicotine isn't the poison. Nicotine actually has numerous health benefits. It's the tar and other crap in cigs that "poison".

    Secondly, if you willingly choose to go into an establishment that allows smoking, then that's all on you bud. If you don't want to be around smokers, don't go into places smoking is allowed.

    But no, people like you can't be that responsible. You have to actually have the government make those decisions for you.

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    sneeze? sorry, but I love it when smokers bring up perfume... cigarette smoke is a POISON to EVERYONE!!! Perfume makes you sneeze... sorry if I am not all that sympathetic by comparing that to a known POISON
    Allergic reactions can be fairly serious.

    BTW I'm a former smoker but not a smoking nazi

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