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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Your rights end where they reach my nose.
    How do you feel about perfume? The stuff makes me sneeze like crazy.

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    How do you feel about perfume? The stuff makes me sneeze like crazy.
    Not just perfume but why not body odor?
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    If that's the case, I want a ban on fat people in revealing clothing, loud music, unleashed dogs, food, unsupervised children, etc.

    The list is very long of **** that I want banned in the park.
    After my trip to a U.S. beach last summer, I am with you on the fat people in revealing clothing. Thankful I live in a country with few truly obese people... and where I live, unleashed dogs in most parks is already illegal...
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    After my trip to a U.S. beach last summer, I am with you on the fat people in revealing clothing. Thankful I live in a country with few truly obese people... and where I live, unleashed dogs in most parks is already illegal...
    Smokers should no more be burdened with these type of things, if we aren't going to do it to everyone.
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    You better not be painting me with that broad brush... I don't support criminalization of tobacco (for now) but it should be kept in your own home (providing you don't have captive children at home)
    Nah....you just want it hidden like they use to do with lepers.

    As for the "captive children" bit? My dads father smoked since before my dad was born. My dad smokes and has since I was born. (I'm 35 and my dad is 66) Neither one of them had/has lung cancer. Neither do I. I left some links about the EPA and their "study" in my last post...I'd suggest ya read it before ya believe all the hype about second hand smoke.
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Your rights end where they reach my nose.

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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Wait wait wait... you mean you're actually able to physically move yourself from a location wherein someone's presence is odorously offensive? All by yourself? Without calling the government to come and ban the person's presence? How do you manage that? Do you have special abilities that allow you to actually think and move for yourself? You're one of those Hero dudes, aren't you?


    If I am enjoying myself with my family, we are settled down, enjoying a dinner or a conversation, why should WE have to move because an addict who is a slave to a weed decides to light up? I love how people say smokers have rights, but your rights end where they meet my nose. Nicotine is a known poison. Right, POISON. You are defending the right of people to casually spread poison in public areas. Sorry, I have absolutely NO sympathy for those people, NONE AT ALL... and if you can't accept restrictions to shield the rest of us from your slavery to the weed, then ban it...
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Both of us can move to separate areas, it is of no consequence.

    I hate the smell of diesel vehicles, really hate it.
    No one is banning them from the road.
    But the diesel is regulated as is the pollution emitted from them -- though I support stronger restrictions... furthermore, those vehicles serve a vital purpose to society, which smoking does not... but, if we want to ban diesel vehicles, or all pollution emmiting vehicles, I am sure I would get along better than most... I would have no problem getting on my bike every day to the countryside to get veggies and other foods or to work or to other places to get daily necessities... could you do that? I suspect most smokers could not do that so well and the Americans who are so fat that they can't even see their feet would not fare so well either... so BRING IT ON!!!
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's easy for YOU to go somewhere else as well.
    Why should I have to go somewhere else simply because a selfish smoker chooses to light up where I am enjoying myself with my friends and/or my family? Perhaps it is the addict to the weed who should move!
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    Re: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I've said it before and now it's happening. It always starts out small. Just a little thing. Then it grows bigger and bigger. Pretty soon it becomes a way of life in which people have forgotten what it either was like or what it should have been like. I'm sure you're wondering what I'm talking about. Well at this point in time I'm talking about smoking. Though what I said above can certainly be applied to lots of other things. But for now, lets stick with smoking.

    It started out by banning smoking in federal buildings. Then it moved onto buisnesses like grocery stores. Oh sure they were understandable. After all smoking IS a hazardous habit for more than just the smoker. So fine, we accepted that. Then came the ban on smoking in restaurants and bars. Using the same excuse. No matter that there were bars and restaurants that were non-smoking. They said that non-smokers "didn't have a choice". Yes those were the exact words that I have heard used. And now comes the next step in getting rid of smokers. The banning of smoking in the outdoors. Yeah you heard it right. New York's mayor wants to ban smoking "in parks, beaches, marinas, boardwalks and pedestrian plazas throughout the city". Including Times Square.

    CBS: Smokers Beware! Proposed New York City Smoking Ban Targets Outdoor Facilities

    This folks is what is called "baby steps". The government has been doing it for a long time, and will no doubt continue to do so. In the end this is how they get the populous to do what they want it to do. This is how the once meant to be small federal government has grown into "Big Brother". IE Big Government. And I would bet $1,000 dollars that once smoking is gone they will move onto drinking beer or some other "bad" thing.
    I love to smoke. But I'm not a habitual smoker.

    Yet I have no problem with the government banning it.

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