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Sheriffs Want Access to Prescription Database

jamesrage said:
The only way they should have access is if they have a warrant. Personally I do not think there should be a data base mostly for the fact others could misuse or look into private information that they have no business looking into.
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How can this information be misused?
 
Caine said:
How can this information be misused?
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I can see a scenario where an employer would be able to gain access to the database and use it to make hiring and firing decisions.
 
Coronado said:
I can see a scenario where an employer would be able to gain access to the database and use it to make hiring and firing decisions.
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And, since this already exists, this can already occurr.

What aspect of giving Law Enforcement access to it changes this?
 
Caine said:
And, since this already exists, this can already occurr.

What aspect of giving Law Enforcement access to it changes this?
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It makes the database that much less secure.
 
Caine said:
Seriously...... is that all you got?
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There's always going to be distrust of government when personal information is accessed. We are asked time and time again to give up our rights to privacy for "the public good." If we don't know how/when the stop the train, it becomes a very dangerous and slippery slope.
 
MaggieD said:
There's always going to be distrust of government when personal information is accessed. We are asked time and time again to give up our rights to privacy for "the public good." If we don't know how/when the stop the train, it becomes a very dangerous and slippery slope.
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When that distrust comes from lack of understanding in how these systems work, then I can't give it much weight.
 
Caine said:
Seriously...... is that all you got?
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So making the database less secure isn't a problem?

Believe it or not, not all LEO's are trustworthy.
 
Coronado said:
So making the database less secure isn't a problem?

Believe it or not, not all LEO's are trustworthy.
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The government itself is not trustworthy. Today it could prescription database tomorrow it could be something else like a database on everything you buy or something else the government and private companies have no business knowing.
 
jamesrage said:
The government itself is not trustworthy. Today it could prescription database tomorrow it could be something else like a database on everything you buy or something else the government and private companies have no business knowing.
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No argument here.

That is where we're going, though. There will be one gigantic database with everyone's medical data on it available to any government official, corrupt or otherwise, and to any journeyman hacker on Earth.

I can't wait. :(
 
Caine said:
When that distrust comes from lack of understanding in how these systems work, then I can't give it much weight.
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But do you KNOW that is the sole and only reason, or are you speculating - looking for a means to dismiss the fears?
 
Coronado said:
So making the database less secure isn't a problem?

Believe it or not, not all LEO's are trustworthy.
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Not all doctors or phamacists are either.................

In fact, they are part of the problem here....
 
jamesrage said:
The government itself is not trustworthy. Today it could prescription database tomorrow it could be something else like a database on everything you buy or something else the government and private companies have no business knowing.
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I wonder if people had the same concerns when we started vehicle registration and keeping that information......

I wonder if people had the same concerns when we created the idea of the "criminal record"......

OH NOES!

I've still yet to see some kind of harm that can be done with this information..... anyone care to give me an example?
 
Caine said:
Not all doctors or phamacists are either.................

In fact, they are part of the problem here....
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Doctors and pharmacists are leaking patient information on a regular basis?
 
Coronado said:
Doctors and pharmacists are leaking patient information on a regular basis?
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Do you even know what this discussion is about??

Apparently not.... im sorry, maybe you shouldn't debate news articles without having read and understood them.

Psst: Its obvious in your arguments on the issue.
 
Caine said:
Do you even know what this discussion is about??

Apparently not.... im sorry, maybe you shouldn't debate news articles without having read and understood them.

Psst: Its obvious in your arguments on the issue.
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If you'd prefer to be insulting rather than addressing the point, you'll have to do it by yourself. :shrug:
 
Coronado said:
If you'd prefer to be insulting rather than addressing the point, you'll have to do it by yourself. :shrug:
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I directed you to read the article in order to find the answer to your "point".
 
Caine said:
I directed you to read the article in order to find the answer to your "point".
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My point is that doctors and pharmacists are not the ones who would be accessing and abusing such a database.
 
Coronado said:
My point is that doctors and pharmacists are not the ones who would be accessing and abusing such a database.
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"Such a database".

Read the article.....
 
Caine said:
I wonder if people had the same concerns when we started vehicle registration and keeping that information......

I wonder if people had the same concerns when we created the idea of the "criminal record"......

OH NOES!

I've still yet to see some kind of harm that can be done with this information..... anyone care to give me an example?
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I bought the morning-after pill thru my pharmacy. That's no one's business but mine. I'm being treated for an STD. That's no one's business but mine. Not my sheriff's deputy boyfriend nor his copper friends. I'm diabetic - nobody's business. I have terminal cancer and spend $2,000 a month on morphine. Nobody's business. What medications someone takes is very personal information. It's a clear violation of HIPPA, imo. Now you might say, "Hey, that never happens." I won't agree with you because coppers can be curious, malicious, or big-mouthed -- just like anybody else.

From your earlier post to me, I understand why they want it. And that does make sense. If the system is somehow blind...does the correlation in the background...pops up names/addresses with a warrant after correlation, then there'd be no issue. Other than that, I think it remains yet another right we're giving up for the public good. Slippery.
 
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Coronado said:
Do you have a point to make or not?
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I can't debate with someone who isn't going to read the freaking article and find out that I have a point in all these things I am saying.

You haven't read the article. I will not continue discussing this with you until you do.
 
Caine said:
I can't debate with someone who isn't going to read the freaking article and find out that I have a point in all these things I am saying.

You haven't read the article. I will not continue discussing this with you until you do.
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I read the "freaking" article. Several times.

Maybe if you enunciated what you believe I am missing we can have a rational conversation. Assuming that is your intent, of course ...
 
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