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    Re: Obama's Speech August 31, 2010

    But none of that proved that Saddam still had an active NBC program. It was and still remains speculations on the part of the Bush-Cheney Administration. Put bluntly...

    NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION WERE EVER FOUND IN THE SEVEN YEARS OF THE WAR IN IRAQ!!!

    None!

    Zero!

    Zip!

    NAHDAH!!!

    So, no matter what that administration or UN Weapons insectors thought Saddam might have been hiding, until it could be proved pre- but especially post-Iraq War that he had the types of weapons for which this country went to war to either prevent him from making or confiscate WMD (seize or destroy if you prefer), posting commentary from Hans Blix doesn't take way the FACT that NONE WERE EVER FOUND!!!

    I would suggest you read the document entitled, "Iraq: Setting the Record Straight".
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    Re: Obama's Speech August 31, 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    OV:That's all we need to quote. Saddam had and used WMD, and from here I'll let Hans Blix blow your ass out of the water on your error fueled claim.




    Blix reveals uncertainties, asks questions that should have been answered a decade earlier. It was 12-years and 16 UN Resolutions. How many does a despot get after losing a war and agreeing to disarm? 3 decades and 30 resolutions? Perhaps not enough for the Libs... I don't know... I'm asking.

    Blix specifically mentioned: VX, weaponized VX, ANTHRAX, all unaccounted for according to Hans. Of course... Saddam would never, ever use WMD... nor would he pass it off to a terrorist, especially in the euphoria after 911. No... he'd never do that...

    ...Disney music... it's a small world after all, it's a small world after all, it's a small world after all... it's a small, small world...

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    Hans Blix was in Iraq with his UN inspection team and had to leave when Bush decided to invade. Why didn't Bush allow the team to complete their mission?
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    Re: Obama's Speech August 31, 2010

    The oval office speech was a political commercial. Simple as that.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama's Speech August 31, 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    But none of that proved that Saddam still had an active NBC program. It was and still remains speculations on the part of the Bush-Cheney Administration. Put bluntly...

    NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION WERE EVER FOUND IN THE SEVEN YEARS OF THE WAR IN IRAQ!!!

    None!

    Zero!

    Zip!

    NAHDAH!!!

    So, no matter what that administration or UN Weapons insectors thought Saddam might have been hiding, until it could be proved pre- but especially post-Iraq War that he had the types of weapons for which this country went to war to either prevent him from making or confiscate WMD (seize or destroy if you prefer), posting commentary from Hans Blix doesn't take way the FACT that NONE WERE EVER FOUND!!!

    I would suggest you read the document entitled, "Iraq: Setting the Record Straight".
    Your lack of critical thinking is astonishing.

    No weapons were found, but even Blix noted weaponized VX and Anthrax were unaccounted for, and that Saddam was jerking them around for years. Saddam had vast quantities and was evil enough to use them!

    12-years, 16 Resolutions. Blix noted this should have been a couple or few year job, bnot 12-years of hide-and-seek.

    Bush went to the UN, got a unanimous vote from the Sec. Council. He gave Saddam a chance. He did not take it. After 911 and a president that wagged his finger, made threats and did nothing, this was no time to flinch with the world's idiots watching.

    Let's try it another way. You have a known sexual predator that has made the house next door home (lucky you). He breaks into your daughter's room while she is sleeping, you enter the room after hearing strange noises (he is about to use WMD), you shoot the prick. Now, how did you know he was castrated? Are you going to wait for ages until he pulls out his balless dick, or are you going to assume he is armed and dangerous and could harm your daughter irreparably?

    Saddam led people to believe he was armed and dangerous (and it doesn't take much to kill masses with that crap... do a wiki on VX and ANTHRAX)... for 12-years. Blix believed he still was, and also noted Saddam would likely reconstitute his programs.

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Hans Blix was in Iraq with his UN inspection team and had to leave when Bush decided to invade. Why didn't Bush allow the team to complete their mission?
    Because Saddam was playing his games. Bush said no games, come clean, one chance only. Saddam was given chances, perhaps because he believed he'd bought of the UN and he was dealing with a president as feeble and hollow as Clinton.

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    Re: Obama's Speech August 31, 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    FOXNews.com - TRANSCRIPT: President Obama's Oval Office Speech on Iraq

    A vapid, droning speech... from a guy that was lock step against everything in Iraq, like his treasonous party.

    There were moments he praised the troops, but I question whether it was from the heart. He opposed everything, accused our troops of air raiding villages and killing civilians... and had to be smacked upside the head to put his hand over his heart, and to wear an American Flag lapel pin.

    I wonder how many watched this and could see through the charade.

    He is unbelievable.

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    Anyone who starts out like this post starts out cqan't be taken seriously.

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    Re: Obama's Speech August 31, 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Hans Blix was in Iraq with his UN inspection team and had to leave when Bush decided to invade. Why didn't Bush allow the team to complete their mission?
    Finding out the truth didn't fit his narrative. When you start with the answer you want, and you have to make sure nothing happens to disprove that answer.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's Speech August 31, 2010

    a good fireside speech without the fire
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Obama's Speech August 31, 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    But none of that proved that Saddam still had an active NBC program. It was and still remains speculations on the part of the Bush-Cheney Administration. Put bluntly...

    NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION WERE EVER FOUND IN THE SEVEN YEARS OF THE WAR IN IRAQ!!!

    None!

    Zero!

    Zip!

    NAHDAH!!!

    So, no matter what that administration or UN Weapons insectors thought Saddam might have been hiding, until it could be proved pre- but especially post-Iraq War that he had the types of weapons for which this country went to war to either prevent him from making or confiscate WMD (seize or destroy if you prefer), posting commentary from Hans Blix doesn't take way the FACT that NONE WERE EVER FOUND!!!

    I would suggest you read the document entitled, "Iraq: Setting the Record Straight".
    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Anyone who starts out like this post starts out cqan't be taken seriously.
    What do you call individuals that send men and women to battle, and then turn on them and their mission, declaring the war lost, claiming the Surge is not working? What side are these people on? And now the man who said our troops were air raiding villages and terrorizing civilians delivered a hollow performance. Because we know what side he stood on.

    Patriotic... my ass.
    You think the troops like and respect this bufoon? Go visit http://forums.military.com/eve
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    Last edited by zimmer; 09-01-10 at 08:27 PM.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Obama's Speech August 31, 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    What do you call individuals that send men and women to battle, and then turn on them and their mission, declaring the war lost, claiming the Surge is not working? What side are these people on? And now the man who said our troops were air raiding villages and terrorizing civilians delivered a hollow performance. Because we know what side he stood on.

    Patriotic... my ass.
    You think the troops like and respect this bufoon? Go visit Military.com Forums - Powered by Social Strata
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    Hate to pop your partisan nonsense bubble, but no one truned on THEM. Many fought for them and against the harm Bush was doing to them. You have to care about wasting their lives needlessly in order to fight for them. If those lives mean little to a parson, that person will accept any reason to spend those those lives. Some of us value their lives and don't want them spend recklessly or without just cause or a valid reason.

    Too many on your side of the isle simply played stupid and tried to trun real concerns into something unpatriotic. Such people are vile and dishonest. There is no place in reasoned discourse for such stupidity and deception. So, no, you can't start out the way you do in this thread and be taken seriously.

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    Re: Obama's Speech August 31, 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Your lack of critical thinking is astonishing.

    No weapons were found, but even Blix noted weaponized VX and Anthrax were unaccounted for, and that Saddam was jerking them around for years. Saddam had vast quantities and was evil enough to use them!

    12-years, 16 Resolutions. Blix noted this should have been a couple or few year job, bnot 12-years of hide-and-seek.

    Bush went to the UN, got a unanimous vote from the Sec. Council. He gave Saddam a chance. He did not take it. After 911 and a president that wagged his finger, made threats and did nothing, this was no time to flinch with the world's idiots watching.

    Let's try it another way. You have a known sexual predator that has made the house next door home (lucky you). He breaks into your daughter's room while she is sleeping, you enter the room after hearing strange noises (he is about to use WMD), you shoot the prick. Now, how did you know he was castrated? Are you going to wait for ages until he pulls out his balless dick, or are you going to assume he is armed and dangerous and could harm your daughter irreparably?

    Saddam led people to believe he was armed and dangerous (and it doesn't take much to kill masses with that crap... do a wiki on VX and ANTHRAX)... for 12-years. Blix believed he still was, and also noted Saddam would likely reconstitute his programs.


    Because Saddam was playing his games. Bush said no games, come clean, one chance only. Saddam was given chances, perhaps because he believed he'd bought of the UN and he was dealing with a president as feeble and hollow as Clinton.
    Again, NO PROOF! Just alot of speculation, but nothing concrete. And other than Iraqies and Iran, who else did Saddam use his chemical weapons against? NOBODY! Yeah, he launched a few SCUD missiles at Isreal, but none hit their target. Plus, Isreal can pretty much hold their own. In any case, we still had their back.

    BTW, my critical thinking ability is just fine. I just don't believe our President should lie to the American people - no...scare the country using misleading information - to justify going to war.

    But it's over now...cost the country over 4,400 lives and billions of dollars and for what? To bring democracy to a country that didn't ask us to interven in their affairs? I hope history proves it was worth it and that we never have to go back there again.

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