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    Environmental Protection Agency Reviewing Petition to Ban Lead Bullets

    Will Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa Jackson make a back door move to ban lead bullets the day before the November 2 elections?

    Several environmentalist groups led by the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) are petitioning the EPA to ban lead bullets and shot (as well as lead sinkers for fishing) under the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA). Although EPA is barred by statute from controlling ammunition, CBD is seeking to work farther back along the manufacturing chain and have EPA ban the use of lead in bullets and shot because non-lead alternatives are available. But here's the catch: the alternatives to lead bullets are more expensive. A ban on the sale of lead ammunition would force hunters and sport shooters to buy non-lead ammunition that is often double the cost of traditional lead ammunition. A box of deer hunting bullets in a popular caliber could be upwards of $55.

    Although the EPA could have dismissed the request due to a lack of jurisdiction, it is obliging CBD. The EPA has asked for public comment on banning lead in ammunition, and an EPA notice was published seeking public comment that closes on October 31. Jackson would then make a decision to accept or reject the petition on November 1. You might say that even considering enacting what is effectively a new tax on hunters and gun owners--seemingly the only non-liberal group the Obama administration hasn't yet intentionally provoked--is less-than-perfect timing for the already beleagured Democrats as the midterm elections approach.

    Environmental Protection Agency Reviewing Petition to Ban Lead Bullets | The Weekly Standard

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    Re: Environmental Protection Agency Reviewing Petition to Ban Lead Bullets

    Moar on this.

    But more importantly, says the NRA, the EPA is barred from regulating ammo or fishing sinkers under the Toxic Substances Control Act. But the ammo foes think that they have found a way around that by asking the EPA to regulate elements of ammo and the element they want banned is the lead.

    Cox said that would counter what Congress has intended in previous laws. "Put another way, if Congress exempts a cow from regulation, one could hardly argue that it nevertheless would allow for regulation of the hide attached to the cow's body," said Cox.

    Despite the opposition from the NRA and the National Shooting Sports Foundation, a trade association for the firearm and ammunition industry, the EPA is considering banning lead. It is seeking public comment until Halloween.
    NRA Warns Against New Gun Control Push ... From EPA - US News and World Report
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    Re: Environmental Protection Agency Reviewing Petition to Ban Lead Bullets

    Maybe I'm being too much of a conspiracy theorist, but it seems like this could be used as a method to deliberately make ammunition more cost prohibitive. Can't control guns so just jack up the price of bullets based on "safety'.

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    Re: Environmental Protection Agency Reviewing Petition to Ban Lead Bullets

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Maybe I'm being too much of a conspiracy theorist, but it seems like this could be used as a method to deliberately make ammunition more cost prohibitive. Can't control guns so just jack up the price of bullets based on "safety'.
    That's the point of the articles.
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    Re: Environmental Protection Agency Reviewing Petition to Ban Lead Bullets

    Solution?...... stock up on ammo now, that way you will have something to give back if they ask.
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    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Environmental Protection Agency Reviewing Petition to Ban Lead Bullets

    You know, I believe that if a burglar broke into my home and I shot him, he would have a lot more to worry about than lead poisoning.
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    Re: Environmental Protection Agency Reviewing Petition to Ban Lead Bullets

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You know, I believe that if a burglar broke into my home and I shot him, he would have a lot more to worry about than lead poisoning.
    You know..... it all depends on the amount of lead he has been poisoned by.
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    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Environmental Protection Agency Reviewing Petition to Ban Lead Bullets

    Bam:

    In a swift and unexpected decision, the Environmental Protection Agency today rejected a petition from environmental groups to ban the use of lead in bullets and shotgun shells, claiming it doesn't have jurisdiction to weigh on the controversial Second Amendment issue. The decision came just hours after the Drudge Report posted stories from Washington Whispers and the Weekly Standard about how gun groups were fighting the lead bullet ban.
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    Re: Environmental Protection Agency Reviewing Petition to Ban Lead Bullets

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Aces. Good to hear and thank you for the added information.
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    Re: Environmental Protection Agency Reviewing Petition to Ban Lead Bullets

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Bam:

    In a swift and unexpected decision, the Environmental Protection Agency today rejected a petition from environmental groups to ban the use of lead in bullets and shotgun shells, claiming it doesn't have jurisdiction to weigh on the controversial Second Amendment issue. The decision came just hours after the Drudge Report posted stories from Washington Whispers and the Weekly Standard about how gun groups were fighting the lead bullet ban.

    Source: U.S. News and World Report
    The NRA didn't waste any time at all shooting that EPA trial balloon.


    This will delay the implementation of this back door gun ban by a time possibly as short as two days.
    Last edited by Scarecrow Akhbar; 08-28-10 at 12:39 AM.

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