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U.S. Soldier Waterboards 6 Year Old Foster Child For Wetting His Bed!

Moot said:
Yes, I saw that too. But doesn't it seem odd that "all the units weapons systems were jammed" and not just Lynch's? Because that would suggest that it was something else besides not just cleaning their weapons. Unless of course the unit was never trained to clean their guns since they were just a supply unit. I dunno, you military experts would know more about that stuff than I would.
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Her Army unit was involved in maintenance and supply. I highly doubt that she/they received proper weapons training. A desert environment can be very demanding on assault rifles that aren't well cleaned and maintained. When training in the Negev, I'd sometimes place black electrical tape over the muzzle to minimize corrosive sand contamination. The first round travels down a clean barrel and removes the tape.

Moot said:
PS: your avatar is beautiful.
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Thank you hun.
 
Moot said:
Ah jeez, I hate to see children get abused. But gee whiz, I wonder where the soldiers got the idea to waterboard, let alone waterboard children? Any guesses?
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Probably from his own twisted mind. :roll:
 
Winston Smith said:
Exactly. Because it's not like we've ever heard of his employer doing it, or defending it, or anything like that.
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you are so right, I mean his step childeren are obviously terrorists, he should have simple shot the kids since you know, that's what his employers do. :roll:


Seriously, did you think before you posted this anti-military couch pontificating drivel?
 
Winston Smith said:
Exactly. Because it's not like we've ever heard of his employer doing it, or defending it, or anything like that.
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Water-boarding is primarily a CIA activity and has precious little to do with military personal.

It's also quite disingenuous to construct a faux linkage between water-boarding and government employment. Doing so amounts to smear by association on a grand scale.
 
Winston Smith said:
Exactly. Because it's not like we've ever heard of his employer doing it, or defending it, or anything like that.
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"We used waterboarding in limited situations to gather information from three known terrorists" =/= "Waterboarding your children when they piss the bed is a great idea!"
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
you are so right, I mean his step childeren are obviously terrorists, he should have simple shot the kids since you know, that's what his employers do. :roll:


Seriously, did you think before you posted this anti-military couch pontificating drivel?
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Most of the prisoners at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo were not terrorists. Even if they had been, that wouldn't justify torture. But the Bush administration did try to justify it nonetheless.
 
Winston Smith said:
Most of the prisoners at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo were not terrorists. Even if they had been, that wouldn't justify torture. But the Bush administration did try to justify it nonetheless.
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Oh not this bull**** again. :roll: WTF does this ignorant opinion of yours have to do with your mouth foaming blaming the army who did not conduct waterboarding for the actions of one troubled idiot?


Please do expand. This ought to be rich.
 
Tashah said:
Water-boarding is primarily a CIA activity and has precious little to do with military personal.

It's also quite disingenuous to construct a faux linkage between water-boarding and government employment. Doing so amounts to smear by association on a grand scale.
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It would be a smear if I were accusing government employees generally of water-boarding. Obviously, I'm not doing that. But it is extremely disingenuous to deny the possibility of a link between a government that rationalizes the practice and an employee who does the same.
 
RightinNYC said:
"We used waterboarding in limited situations to gather information from three known terrorists" =/= "Waterboarding your children when they piss the bed is a great idea!"
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Breaking the law = breaking the law. If it's okay to do it in some cases, one could argue that it's okay in others.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Oh not this bull**** again. :roll: WTF does this ignorant opinion of yours have to do with your mouth foaming blaming the army who did not conduct waterboarding for the actions of one troubled idiot?


Please do expand. This ought to be rich.
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What do you disagree with? The first and last sentences are plainly factual. The second is an opinion, and I stick by it.
 
Winston Smith said:
What do you disagree with? The first and last sentences are plainly factual. The second is an opinion, and I stick by it.
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You are derailing, you were attacking the military and trying to link the actions of one lunatic to everyone who served. Please do continue.
 
Winston Smith said:
It would be a smear if I were accusing government employees generally of water-boarding. Obviously, I'm not doing that. But it is extremely disingenuous to deny the possibility of a link between a government that rationalizes the practice and an employee who does the same.
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Obviously, you were doing that... as nowhere in your original quote below is the "generally" qualifier you disingenuously inserted above to cya...

Winston Smith said:
Exactly. Because it's not like we've ever heard of his employer doing it, or defending it, or anything like that.
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As anyone can plainly see above, you pointed your pudgy finger at government employees without reservation.
 
The odds are actually better that he got the idea from watching TV coverage about waterboarding rather than from his military experience.


This is just a case of a POS acting like a POS. It's the height of absurdity to try and make it about his occupation. There are jagoffs who abuse their kids in all walks of life.



Edited to add: I actually just watched the video and it wasn't even "waterboarding", really.
 
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Tashah said:
Obviously, you were doing that... as nowhere in your original quote below is the "generally" qualifier you disingenuously inserted above to cya...


As anyone can plainly see above, you pointed your pudgy finger at government employees without reservation.
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I accused his employer, to repeat the language you bolded, meaning the US government. You do understand the difference between an employer and an employee, right?
 
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Winston Smith said:
You do understand the difference between an employer and an employee, right?
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:prof You do understand that not all government employees are military. Right?

:prof You do understand that one criminal is not representative of an entire government. Right?

:prof You do understand that one criminal act does not tarnish an entire profession. Right?

:prof You do understand that your spin was absurd. Right?
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
If I were a judge, their bronzed skulls would be displayed in a cabinet in the office of Child Protective Services as a reminder of what happens when they **** up.
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Ah -- I see you are oldschool.
 
Tashah said:
:prof You do understand that not all government employees are military. Right?

:prof You do understand that one criminal is not representative of an entire government. Right?

:prof You do understand that one criminal act does not tarnish an entire profession. Right?

:prof You do understand that your spin was absurd. Right?
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Well, I'm glad we now agree that I'm not making inferences about government employees based on generalizations about the government. That's the same kind of faulty assumption I had to explain to Gardener yesterday. I'd hate to see it become prevalent.

Of course, it would be ridiculous to tarnish the government with the actions of one employee--if not for the fact that the same government practices and justifies those very same actions. Recall for example the statements by John Yoo, the Bush administration attorney who was vilified in his profession for defending the president's right to crush the genitals of the children of suspected terrorists. Such is the culture of lawlessness and cruelty that our executive branch has fostered. It's no surprise to see something like this come out of it.
 
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Winston Smith said:
Well, I'm glad we now agree that I'm not making inferences about government employees based on generalizations about the government. That's the same kind of faulty assumption I had to explain to Gardener yesterday. I'd hate to see it become prevalent.
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Everyone read your words the same way I did. Rev, Right, and Tuck.

I don't agree at all with what you attempted to spin: Government employee = torturer

Nor do I agree with another facet of your spin: Soldier = torturer

Winston Smith said:
Of course, it would be ridiculous to tarnish the government with the actions of one employee
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Thank you for finally - if belatedly - admitting that.

Winston Smith said:
Such is the culture of lawlessness and cruelty that our executive branch has fostered. It's no surprise to see something like this come out of it.
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Once again though, you attempt to paint everyone with a putty knife. Now it's the cursed executive branch. Egads.
 
Tucker Case said:
The odds are actually better that he got the idea from watching TV coverage about waterboarding rather than from his military experience.
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For real. I was in the military during this whole thing, and I never heard of waterboarding until the media began covering it which was some time after I had gotten out. 99.9% of our military is not involved with, nor has the security clearence to know what interregation techniques(torturous or not) our intelligence community uses. Its only when the media "shed light" on something that anybody becomes aware of it, and then people who would be an idiot in life sans military training are the only ones who would emulate it, particularly on children. in this case, the person just happened to be a military person.
 
Tashah said:
Everyone read your words the same way I did. Rev, Right, and Tuck.

I don't agree at all with what you attempted to spin: Government employee = torturer

Nor do I agree with another facet of your spin: Soldier = torturer


Thank you for finally - if belatedly - admitting that.


Once again though, you attempt to paint everyone with a putty knife. Now it's the cursed executive branch. Egads.
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I've never said or implied that soldiers or government employees = torturers. What I have said, which you persistently avoid addressing, is that this particular soldier's behavior is nothing but what our own government taught by example and sanctioned by its words. There is no way around that.
 
Winston Smith said:
What I have said, which you persistently avoid addressing, is that this particular soldier's behavior is nothing but what our own government taught by example and sanctioned by its words.
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Our government taught us to "waterboard" c hildren who wet the bed? :confused:
 
Winston Smith said:
I've never said or implied that soldiers or government employees = torturers.
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You did imply it. It's obvious to anyone reading this thread.

Winston Smith said:
What I have said, which you persistently avoid addressing, is that this particular soldier's behavior is nothing but what our own government taught by example and sanctioned by its words. There is no way around that.
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That's pure bs and you know it.

If such were the case, we'd be inundated with domestic stories of water-boarding and human pyramids.

Jeeze Louise. Where do you get such unsupportable and weird ideas?
 
Tucker Case said:
Our government taught us to "waterboard" c hildren who wet the bed? :confused:
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I learned my techniques from the King of Pop.....
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Tashah said:
You did imply it. It's obvious to anyone reading this thread.
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I don't have any more time for red herrings. I'd rather talk about the more significant issue of our government's policy of torture, assuming anyone cares to deny it.

Tashah said:
That's pure bs and you know it.

If such were the case, we'd be inundated with domestic stories of water-boarding and human pyramids.

Jeeze Louise. Where do you get such unsupportable and weird ideas?
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That's more like it. I suggest starting here.
 
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