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    Re: U.S. Soldier Waterboards 6 Year Old Foster Child For Wetting His Bed!

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Probably from his own twisted mind.
    Yes, I feel bad about the impression my first post left. I was more angry at what happened to those children than I was concerned about the soldiers.

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    Re: U.S. Soldier Waterboards 6 Year Old Foster Child For Wetting His Bed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    Exactly. Because it's not like we've ever heard of his employer doing it, or defending it, or anything like that.
    Winston, the fact that civilians know about waterboarding and it has been discussed quite heavily via the media and on the internet suggests that anyone could have learned about waterboarding and I would not be surprised if there are some out there who wanted to see for themselves if was really torture by experimenting on themselves or their friends. Case in point, Christopher Hitchens.

    The fact that 2 children were waterboarded by 2 soldiers suggests that the soldiers themselves may have been abused as children, because it is a known fact that abused children grow up to be child abusers. So I think these unfortunate incidents of abuse probably has more to do with the sickness in our society than it does the military because those two soldiers were civilians long before they were soldiers and we really don't know enough about them to make any kind of judgement.
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    Re: U.S. Soldier Waterboards 6 Year Old Foster Child For Wetting His Bed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Winston, the fact that civilians know about waterboarding and it has been discussed quite heavily via the media and on the internet suggests that anyone could have learned about waterboarding and I would not be surprised if there are some out there who wanted to see for themselves if was really torture by experimenting on themselves or their friends. Case in point, Christopher Hitchens.

    The fact that 2 children were waterboarded by 2 soldiers suggests that the soldiers themselves may have been abused as children, because it is a known fact that abused children grow up to be child abusers. So I think these unfortunate incidents of abuse probably has more to do with the sickness in our society than it does the military because those two soldiers were civilians long before they were soldiers and we really don't know enough about them to make any kind of judgement.
    Maybe it does have to do with their upbringing, but for whatever reason, domestic violence rates are significantly higher in the military. For that reason alone, even if public officials weren't specifically condoning torture, it would still be a military problem.
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    Re: U.S. Soldier Waterboards 6 Year Old Foster Child For Wetting His Bed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    Maybe it does have to do with their upbringing, but for whatever reason, domestic violence rates are significantly higher in the military. For that reason alone, even if public officials weren't specifically condoning torture, it would still be a military problem.
    But isn't that kind of understandable considering the soldiers go from the battlefield and in matter of hours back to civilian domestic life with little time to readjust? Not to mention the wives having been on their own for a year or more and were used to doing things their own way and some of the children are strangers to their dads when they return? But I think the military is aware of the transition problem and is trying to help the best they can considering that isn't what the military was designed to do.

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    Re: U.S. Soldier Waterboards 6 Year Old Foster Child For Wetting His Bed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    Maybe it does have to do with their upbringing, but for whatever reason, domestic violence rates are significantly higher in the military. For that reason alone, even if public officials weren't specifically condoning torture, it would still be a military problem.


    This is just anecdotal, just guesses, really, but from what I've seen, it seems like military folks get married younger and have kids younger than the gen pop.
    Many of them aren't college-educated; they're from working class backgrounds.
    To their youth and background, add the unique stresses of military family life, with its frequent moves and deployments... and it starts to make sense.

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    Re: U.S. Soldier Waterboards 6 Year Old Foster Child For Wetting His Bed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    But isn't that kind of understandable considering the soldiers go from the battlefield and in matter of hours back to civilian domestic life with little time to readjust? Not to mention the wives having been on their own for a year or more and were used to doing things their own way and some of the children are strangers to their dads when they return? But I think the military is aware of the transition problem and is trying to help the best they can considering that isn't what the military was designed to do.
    I would say it's not surprising. I don't think I'd call it understandable.

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    Re: U.S. Soldier Waterboards 6 Year Old Foster Child For Wetting His Bed!

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    This is just anecdotal, just guesses, really, but from what I've seen, it seems like military folks get married younger and have kids younger than the gen pop.
    Many of them aren't college-educated; they're from working class backgrounds.
    To their youth and background, add the unique stresses of military family life, with its frequent moves and deployments... and it starts to make sense.
    The military cites youth, poverty, and of course maleness as key factors. I suspect, as do many of those who study the problem, that being trained to practice and glorify violence contributes to it as well.

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    Re: U.S. Soldier Waterboards 6 Year Old Foster Child For Wetting His Bed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    The military cites youth, poverty, and of course maleness as key factors. I suspect, as do many of those who study the problem, that being trained to practice and glorify violence contributes to it as well.
    Wouldn't surprise me any.
    Although the official training/indoctrination/whatever seems to stress the concept of "honor", as well, and I doubt attacks on women and children in one's own household are officially sanctioned.
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    Re: U.S. Soldier Waterboards 6 Year Old Foster Child For Wetting His Bed!

    Hey he could have gotten something a lot worse, like say a switch across the legs.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: U.S. Soldier Waterboards 6 Year Old Foster Child For Wetting His Bed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Ah jeez, I hate to see children get abused. But gee whiz, I wonder where the soldiers got the idea to waterboard, let alone waterboard children? Any guesses?
    So, had he not been in the military, he wouldn't be a piece-a-**** child abuser? Puhleese, spare us that crap!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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