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    re: Black kids allegedly declare 'Beat Whitey Night' at fair(edited)

    Well, equally interesting in this, and certainly obvious in the responses to this thread so far, is the assumption of a racial motivation. A bunch of out-of-hand teenagers start a load of trouble at a state fair. The police become involved and chops get busted, but because the teenagers are black their violence must be racially motivated. There's no proof of this, just one anonymous person reporting that they heard the chant, "It's Beat Whitey Night". Even the police don't know whether there was any racial motivation, yet we've got half-a-dozen DP posters assuming it was racially motivated.

    That says a lot, right there.
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    re: Black kids allegedly declare 'Beat Whitey Night' at fair(edited)

    making a public issue of every bigoted occurrence would do nothing but stoke the fires more.. the flames of racism will never die if we sensationalize every asshole who acts that way. Everyone knows it occurs, and is not a one way street, shining a spotlight on hatred breeds more hatred.
    I think it deserves review... which leads me to this...

    Well, equally interesting in this, and certainly obvious in the responses to this thread so far, is the assumption of a racial motivation. A bunch of out-of-hand teenagers start a load of trouble at a state fair. The police become involved and chops get busted, but because the teenagers are black their violence must be racially motivated. There's no proof of this, just one anonymous person reporting that they heard the chant, "It's Beat Whitey Night". Even the police don't know whether there was any racial motivation, yet we've got half-a-dozen DP posters assuming it was racially motivated.

    That says a lot, right there.
    This is why it needs media attention. It is the media responsibility not to inflame, but to report, and investigate. Assuming that it was racially motivated, why and how did organize? And what does it say to the community? And how can it be prevented in the future. Assuming it wasn't racial, why did they say it was, and why still did 40 black youths go on a rampage?

    The media needs to look into this. Frankly though, I must admit, even as a left of left NYC "elitist" if this was a group of white teens, and there was even a "hint" of racism, it'd be all over the news.

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    re: Black kids allegedly declare 'Beat Whitey Night' at fair(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Olak View Post
    I think it deserves review... which leads me to this...



    This is why it needs media attention. It is the media responsibility not to inflame, but to report, and investigate. Assuming that it was racially motivated, why and how did organize? And what does it say to the community? And how can it be prevented in the future. Assuming it wasn't racial, why did they say it was, and why still did 40 black youths go on a rampage?

    The media needs to look into this. Frankly though, I must admit, even as a left of left NYC "elitist" if this was a group of white teens, and there was even a "hint" of racism, it'd be all over the news.
    It is the police who have the responsibility to investigate, not the media, and then after that it is up to the courts and a jury of peers to decide guilt. Until then it is an alleged incident that does not warrant media attention.
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    re: Black kids allegedly declare 'Beat Whitey Night' at fair(edited)

    It is the police who have the responsibility to investigate, not the media, and then after that it is up to the courts and a jury of peers to decide guilt. Until then it is an alleged incident that does not warrant media attention.
    I agree that police are maintained to prevent, arrest and investigate crimes, however I believe that ethical media reporting involves investigation. And allegations are important in the public eye. 40 youths when on a rampage, aren't you curious as to the causes? And how better to prevent it?

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    re: Black kids allegedly declare 'Beat Whitey Night' at fair(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Olak View Post
    This is why it needs media attention. It is the media responsibility not to inflame, but to report, and investigate. Assuming that it was racially motivated, why and how did organize? And what does it say to the community? And how can it be prevented in the future. Assuming it wasn't racial, why did they say it was, and why still did 40 black youths go on a rampage?

    The media needs to look into this. Frankly though, I must admit, even as a left of left NYC "elitist" if this was a group of white teens, and there was even a "hint" of racism, it'd be all over the news.
    That depends where it took place. A bunch of 40 pissed-up kids starting a fight at a fair must happen in every country in the World at least one night in ten. Why does it suddenly become national news, even if the IS a racial dimension? Teenage boys with too much testosterone + alcohol/drugs + lots of other people often leads to minor civil disturbance/trouble. That's what football violence is all about. I note that the article didn't mention any injuries or hospitalisations. This was a bit of local argy-bargy with the police taking the strain. Is THAT national news?
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    re: Black kids allegedly declare 'Beat Whitey Night' at fair(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Olak View Post
    I agree that police are maintained to prevent, arrest and investigate crimes, however I believe that ethical media reporting involves investigation. And allegations are important in the public eye. 40 youths when on a rampage, aren't you curious as to the causes? And how better to prevent it?
    nope not overly curious, it is a local incident, and it is not even close my neighborhood (even if it were my town t does not warrant attention) .. I think media attention and the inevitable sensationalism and subsequent prejudging and demonetization by publicizing the issue are potentially far more damaging than the incident itself.
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    re: Black kids allegedly declare 'Beat Whitey Night' at fair(edited)

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    Because it would not be politically correct to report it.
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    Re: Black kids allegedly declare 'Beat Whitey Night' at fair(edited)

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    Because it would not be politically correct to report it.
    Or because basic fact-checking would reveal that the allegations have no basis in provable fact.
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    Re: Black kids allegedly declare 'Beat Whitey Night' at fair(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Wow. You did notice I mentioned it was not a one way street right? I think someone forgot to look both ways before posting (or perhaps more aptly sprinting into the street on a tangential rant?).
    Sorry, I agree with you. My rant was not meant to be at you. It was just a rant that I thought you might agree with. Guess not..
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