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    Re: Bush-Cheney campaign manager, ex-chairman of Republican Party set to come out as

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Well see that's the thing. If conservatives didn't make a big stink over it then it wouldn't be an issue at all. Obama is really kind of a bitch in certain areas, and when he wasn't president he wanted gays to be able to marry so it would quit being an issue, now that he is president, he backs into a corner. I guess that is the default answer of any president though.
    What does this have to do with what I said?
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    Re: Bush-Cheney campaign manager, ex-chairman of Republican Party set to come out as

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    have a link?
    Local Exit Polls - Election Center 2008 - Elections & Politics from CNN.com

    27% of gays voted for McCain compared to 21% of jews, 22% of "other" religions, 23% of atheists, and 4% of blacks.

    The same trends were present in 04 and 00, though not to the same degree.
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    Re: Bush-Cheney campaign manager, ex-chairman of Republican Party set to come out as

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    Local Exit Polls - Election Center 2008 - Elections & Politics from CNN.com

    27% of gays voted for McCain compared to 21% of jews, 22% of "other" religions, 23% of atheists, and 4% of blacks.

    The same trends were present in 04 and 00, though not to the same degree.
    Interesting, good to know. I wonder if it had anything to do with the McCain women...did they ever make it known their views on gay rights before they did the no h8 thing?
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    Re: Bush-Cheney campaign manager, ex-chairman of Republican Party set to come out as

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What does this have to do with what I said?
    Several gay people I know steer away from the Republican party because of their stance on gay marriage and other such issues. If Republicans just embraced them and did everything they could to make them a full part of the party rather than some side group, that would probably solve a lot of perception and image issues the Republican party has.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Bush-Cheney campaign manager, ex-chairman of Republican Party set to come out as

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Several gay people I know steer away from the Republican party because of their stance on gay marriage and other such issues. If Republicans just embraced them and did everything they could to make them a full part of the party rather than some side group, that would probably solve a lot of perception and image issues the Republican party has.
    And many gays figure there are more important issues. Pigeonholing people's politics based on whatever label you want to call them leads to many mistakes. Believe it or not, gays are just regular people, with the same complexities of belief that every one has.
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    Re: Bush-Cheney campaign manager, ex-chairman of Republican Party set to come out as

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And many gays figure there are more important issues. Pigeonholing people's politics based on whatever label you want to call them leads to many mistakes. Believe it or not, gays are just regular people, with the same complexities of belief that every one has.
    What could be more important than equal representation under the law?

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    Re: Bush-Cheney campaign manager, ex-chairman of Republican Party set to come out as

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    What could be more important than equal representation under the law?
    Well, I guess that depends on individuals priorities doesn't it?
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    Re: Bush-Cheney campaign manager, ex-chairman of Republican Party set to come out as

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Interesting, good to know. I wonder if it had anything to do with the McCain women...did they ever make it known their views on gay rights before they did the no h8 thing?
    I doubt that had much to do with it - 22-24% of gays voted for Bush.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    What could be more important than equal representation under the law?
    You make it sound like they're choosing a party that is trying to deny them equal rights over a party that is trying to give them equal rights. In reality, they're choosing a party that tends not to support gay marriage over a party that also tends not to support gay marriage, but to a slightly lesser degree. Democrats have long held themselves out as the party of the gays, but I've yet to see them do much of anything to earn it.

    Reminder: Dick Cheney is more supportive of gay rights than Barack Obama.
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    Re: Bush-Cheney campaign manager, ex-chairman of Republican Party set to come out as

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well, I guess that depends on individuals priorities doesn't it?
    Individual rights and all ya know?

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    Re: Bush-Cheney campaign manager, ex-chairman of Republican Party set to come out as

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    You make it sound like they're choosing a party that is trying to deny them equal rights over a party that is trying to give them equal rights. .
    I'm sorry but wasn't Bush 43 pushing the FMA back in 2000? Why don't we look at Republican platforms from back then.......

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