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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    No we're not. We're saying that no new one's should be built there. To me, if it's hurting NYer's that lost loved ones, and they don't want it there, that's the way it should be.

    Also, and this is what I would love about it, is we're saying to all Muslim's who hate us, we ain't takin no **** from you.

    This imam (Rauf) needs checked out, and where the money's coming from. I think it's all very fishy. Imam Rauf wouldn't denounce Hamas, either. What kind of person wouldn't quickly denounce Hamas as a terrorist organization. It's listed as such by the State Dept.

    Excerpt from a New York Post article:



    Read more: Hamas nod for Ground Zero mosque - NYPOST.com
    What you're saying is that an angry mob can tell the legal owners of private land what they can do with it. And that an angry mob can restrict someone's First Amendment rights to free practice of religion and association.

    Why don't you ask Bush & Cheney what they thought about Imam Rauf when they hired him to be an advocate of Islam in America to the Middle East and a bridge between the US and the Muslim world? 'Ground Zero Mosque' Imam Was A Bush-Era Partner For Mideast Peace | TPMMuckraker

    Let us also recall that Hamas came to power because of an ill-advised move by Bush and Rice to have the Palestinians hold open Democratic elections (obviously failing to recognize that Hamas did more to get aid to poor Palestinians that the government did). And there's suggestion that they also advised the ill-fated attempt of Fatah to use arms to get rid of Hamas in the West Bank, leading the Civil War that eventually led to the Hamas takeover of Gaza.

    The Gaza Bombshell | Politics | Vanity Fair

    Yeah. Hamas sucks. They're also partially in power in Gaza because of American mistakes.

    But, those of you who are shouting down the Cordoba House project are providing perfect fodder for Hamas and other recruiters of terrorists. The faces of angry white Americans shouting down an attempt to create an open-to-the-public Islamic center only proves to them that we are at war with their religion and not its extremists. Why even try to be moderate if moderates are going to be treated the same as terrorists? The faces and posters of these protesters are going to show up on terror websites around the Middle East - where Imam Rauf is currently on a speaking tour where he is touting how positive it is to be a Muslim in America and how America doesn't hate Islam. Ironic, isn't it?

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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    FFG,

    Exactly! It's what I've been saying almost from the day this mosque issue hit a fever pitch. It's dangerous for this nation to be taking the stance against it! We're inviting the very Holy War radical Islam is looking for, and if we're not careful they'll get it!!

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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Someone might inform this moron that Beck doesn't think Obama is a Muslim and also doesn't believe all Muslims are responsible for 9/11. Sheesh.

    Perhaps reading the entire transcript might help:

    Glenn Beck - Current Events & Politics - Pelosi wants to investigate Ground Zero mosque opponents

    And why did they show Glenn's picture when Rush was talking?
    If you're going to pretend Beckie doesn't stir up the base with ignorance and hate... you're going to be laughed out of this thread...

    Sure, he always backpedals a little after spending a good amount of time hammering home a hateful point, but dropping in a "I'm not saying that..." at the end doesn't mean ****.

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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    And your're taking the advice of a retired NY Firefighter who's position is clearly bias because he lost friends/coworkers/colleagues in the 9/11 attack as the truth as to what this Imam's intentions for building this community center is really about?
    The firefighter wanted to know where the money is coming from for the mosque/community center, and said that the imam Rauf was a bad guy. Rauf did say that America was an accessory for the crime of 9/11 that occurred.

    Does it make much sense to you to return to such hateful, despicable times? Because if we continue on this path that's exactly where we're headed. And we give radical Islam the very Holy War they want.
    We're not the one's with the hate. It doesn't matter what we do if they want a Holy War. That's what this imam Rauf said. He said we brought on 9/11.

    I'm not saying we cave in to avoid the unknown. I'm saying we march forward showing the very example of diplomacy and democracy we claim we're trying to spread around the world by setting the tone for peace right here and now within our own boarders.
    See what I said above. It doesn't matter how diplomatic we are. If they want war, being all nicey nice, and sweetie sweet is only going to look weak in their eyes.
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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    What you're saying is that an angry mob can tell the legal owners of private land what they can do with it. And that an angry mob can restrict someone's First Amendment rights to free practice of religion and association.
    No angry mob. Just over 60% of American's.

    Why don't you ask Bush & Cheney what they thought about Imam Rauf when they hired him to be an advocate of Islam in America to the Middle East and a bridge between the US and the Muslim world?
    Maybe Rauf is a smooth operator.

    But, those of you who are shouting down the Cordoba House project are providing perfect fodder for Hamas and other recruiters of terrorists. The faces of angry white Americans shouting down an attempt to create an open-to-the-public Islamic center only proves to them that we are at war with their religion and not its extremists. Why even try to be moderate if moderates are going to be treated the same as terrorists? The faces and posters of these protesters are going to show up on terror websites around the Middle East - where Imam Rauf is currently on a speaking tour where he is touting how positive it is to be a Muslim in America and how America doesn't hate Islam. Ironic, isn't it?
    You know a lot, so I'm sure you know they like to build their mosques at the sites of their victories. This might be the message they receive if this mosque gets built so close to Ground Zero.
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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    I find this to be right on target.

    The man is a bold faced liar. If a Sharia supporting Islamist who says that America is an accessory to 9-11 and that OBL was made in the USA less than 3 weeks after the attacks, and refuses to condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization, is moderate then what's a radical?
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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I think the point the commentator from MSNBC was trying to make is this...

    Althought guys like Rush, Hannity and even Levin might say, "I don't believe he (Pres. Obama) is a Muslim," they stop short of proclaiming that he is a Christian. By doing so, they absolve themselves of having the finger pointed at them that they've ever stated affirmatively that Pres. Obama is a Muslim. But...

    They go out of their way at every turn to "link" the President w/radical Muslims, i.e., "he won't comment on whether it's right or wrong to build the Mosque at Ground Zero", "he bows to the Saudi prince, etc., who we all know is of the Muslim faith," "he was a member of Rev. Wright's church for 20 yrs", etc., etc., etc.
    Or the fact that he invited the President of an organization listed by the FBI as unindicted coconspirators in terrorist financing over for Ramadan dinner? Yes pointing out facts = labeling Obama a Muslim. 10 10 10 on those mental gymnatics.

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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    The man is a bold faced liar. If a Sharia supporting Islamist who says that America is an accessory to 9-11 and that OBL was made in the USA less than 3 weeks after the attacks, and refuses to condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization, is moderate then what's a radical?
    I must ask, where is the quote of him wanting to implement Sharia in the States?
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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I must ask, where is the quote of him wanting to implement Sharia in the States?
    He wrote an entire article on the subject:

    At the core of Shariah law are God's commandments, revealed in the Old Testament and revised in the New Testament and the Quran. The principles behind American secular law are similar to Shariah law - that we protect life, liberty and property, that we provide for the common welfare, that we maintain a certain amount of modesty. What Muslims want is to ensure that their secular laws are not in conflict with the Quran or the Hadith, the sayings of Muhammad.

    On Faith Panelists Blog: How Islamic Law Can Work - Feisal Abdul Rauf
    His only opposition to current Sharia is the stringent penal codes involved, however, though the punishments would not be as severe this would still entail the criminization of homosexuality, apostasy, premarital sex, adultery, along with the various gender discriminatory regulations found in Sharia; such as, unequal inheritance for women even when they are of equal relation to the deceased as the male heir.
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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Or the fact that he invited the President of an organization listed by the FBI as unindicted coconspirators in terrorist financing over for Ramadan dinner? Yes pointing out facts = labeling Obama a Muslim. 10 10 10 on those mental gymnatics.
    Oooh... interesting. Is there a list of guests somewhere? Obama always seems to have a few radicals or felons over when he is having a party. He seems to attract them like flies.

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