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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    This guy is just as bad as anyone from Fox, probably worse, cause he's saying stuff that he has made up to make people seem like they are against freedom of religion and that's not it. I've heard Rove speak and he's really just speaking the truth, that these Muslim's are being insensitive to New Yorker's when wanting to build this close to ground zero. They are Muslim's for crissake. Have they forgotten why the twin towers fell, and nearly 3,000 people died? It's because Muslim's in the name of their religion were hell-bent on killing all American's, or as many as possible. Most American's are against them building there. They should quietly take the offers they've been given, and go build their Mosque there.
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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Someone might inform this moron that Beck doesn't think Obama is a Muslim and also doesn't believe all Muslims are responsible for 9/11. Sheesh.

    Perhaps reading the entire transcript might help:

    Glenn Beck - Current Events & Politics - Pelosi wants to investigate Ground Zero mosque opponents

    And why did they show Glenn's picture when Rush was talking?
    I think the point the commentator from MSNBC was trying to make is this...

    Althought guys like Rush, Hannity and even Levin might say, "I don't believe he (Pres. Obama) is a Muslim," they stop short of proclaiming that he is a Christian. By doing so, they absolve themselves of having the finger pointed at them that they've ever stated affirmatively that Pres. Obama is a Muslim. But...

    They go out of their way at every turn to "link" the President w/radical Muslims, i.e., "he won't comment on whether it's right or wrong to build the Mosque at Ground Zero", "he bows to the Saudi prince, etc., who we all know is of the Muslim faith," "he was a member of Rev. Wright's church for 20 yrs", etc., etc., etc. They go out of their way hype up this Muslim extremist/terrorist fridge and they make a point to ever so slightly link the President with this fridge in such a way that their listeners are always suspecious, anxious, angry that it's real easy to turn all that into outright hatred. You say something enough times and eventually the lie becomes the truth.

    It's even gotten to the point where people forget or completely ignore the fact that some of these very same things they claim that only President Obama has done both former president's Clinton and GW Bush have also done, i.e., both Bush and Obama have used Imam Feisal to promote peaceful relations abroad about Islam in American. All three Presidents have bowed to the Saudi Prince at one time or another, as well as other foreign diplomates/heads of state as a matter of custom and respect. Even books covering basic principles in U.S. export practises express the importance of following foreign customs when dealing w/foreign clients.

    There are other clear examples of how these guys try to absolve themselves of other "hot-button" issues while also claiming "innocence", i.e., the President is a U.S. citizen, yet they still ask to see his birth certificate, or they claim he doesn't follow the Constitution but neglect to mention that not only aren't all the President's responsiblities mentioned in the Constitution but Congress has enacted an abundance of laws that specificly state what the President's authorities are in many different situations (i.e., setting up the trust fund for collecting fines and so forth from BP for the oil spill under the Oil Pollution Act) yet they continue to espouse "he's subverting the Constitution" or "it's unconstitutional...who gave him the authority to do..." such and such. It's a play on people's ignorance and fear, and they're banking that no one will go and look up various things from the law that disproves their trumped up claims. It's a bunch of political BS intended to keep people completely and utterly off-guard to get folks to vote their way, the GOP way!!!
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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    This guy is just as bad as anyone from Fox, probably worse, cause he's saying stuff that he has made up to make people seem like they are against freedom of religion and that's not it. I've heard Rove speak and he's really just speaking the truth, that these Muslim's are being insensitive to New Yorker's when wanting to build this close to ground zero. They are Muslim's for crissake. Have they forgotten why the twin towers fell, and nearly 3,000 people died? It's because Muslim's in the name of their religion were hell-bent on killing all American's, or as many as possible. Most American's are against them building there. They should quietly take the offers they've been given, and go build their Mosque there.
    So, are you for tearing down the mosque that's closer to Ground Zero? Because basically what you and others are saying is that no mosque should be that close to those hallowed grounds.

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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post

    They go out of their way at every turn to "link" the President w/radical Muslims, i.e., "he won't comment on whether it's right or wrong to build the Mosque at Ground Zero", "he bows to the Saudi prince, etc., who we all know is of the Muslim faith," "he was a member of Rev. Wright's church for 20 yrs", etc., etc., etc. They go out of their way hype up this Muslim extremist/terrorist fridge and they make a point to ever so slightly link the President with this fridge in such a way that their listeners are always suspecious, anxious, angry that it's real easy to turn all that into outright hatred.
    Rev. Wright is a Muslim?

    I think the point some people on radio make is that people don't recognize the Christian that Obama says he is. Rev. Wright's church claims to be Christian, but they preach hate and racism. That's not Christian to the majority of Christians in this country. So I think people really are confused about what he really believes. He says he thinks there are many ways to salvation, but that's clearly not a Christian belief. He believes in collective salvation which also isn't part of the Christian religion.

    I believe he's not really that religious at all. I think he went to Rev. Wright's church for political worship more than anything.


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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    Think about what you just said in your last line above...

    He (Pres. Obama) is going to attend a Baptist church for 20-yrs strictly for political reasons?

    And no, Rev. Wright isn't a Muslim. However, the point I was trying to make in mentioning him is that by constantly speaking of Pres. Obama's past relationship w/his former pastor, the talking heads can continue to spin the Rev's anti-American rants and link same w/the apparent anti-American hatred Muslim extremism clearly espouses to. It's painfully obvious! All you have to do (if you're capable of setting politics aside for just a minute) is filter out the white-noise and listen for what they don't say and how certain things are purposely "blended" from one off-topic to the next they claim is of relevence when the reality is one usually has nothing to do with the other.

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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Think about what you just said in your last line above...

    He (Pres. Obama) is going to attend a Baptist church for 20-yrs strictly for political reasons?

    And no, Rev. Wright isn't a Muslim. However, the point I was trying to make in mentioning him is that by constantly speaking of Pres. Obama's past relationship w/his former pastor, the talking heads can continue to spin the Rev's anti-American rants and link same w/the apparent anti-American hatred Muslim extremism clearly espouses to. It's painfully obvious! All you have to do (if you're capable of setting politics aside for just a minute) is filter out the white-noise and listen for what they don't say and how certain things are purposely "blended" from one off-topic to the next they claim is of relevence when the reality is one usually has nothing to do with the other.
    What I mean is that Rev. Wright's church was more political than spiritual. I don't believe a true Christian would put up with that. Preachers shouldn't rant about political crap from the pulpit. That's not the purpose of worship.

    Do you honestly believe Obama had no clue that Rev. Wright was such a hate-filled racist? Or do you think Rev. Wright isn't a hate-filled racist?


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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Tell me you know 100% that he is NOT a muslim. Anyone that believes he is really has been brainwashed.
    I can't. Even if asked before the election, I would have said I don't know either way. I still don't know 100%. Only Obama knows where his heart is. I'm still bouncing around from 50% to 70 to 30 back to 50 etc.
    The only real relevance in my opinion is whether he lied or not.
    My comment about CNN was just pointing out what I found funny. They said people who thought he was Muslim were incorrect. They then went on to show clips that pointed to things that might make you believe he is a Muslim.

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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    I don't think there's any evidence he's a Muslim. Black Liberation Theology believer? Yes.


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    Re: Rush, Beck & Obama Muslim Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Rev. Wright is a Muslim?

    I think the point some people on radio make is that people don't recognize the Christian that Obama says he is. Rev. Wright's church claims to be Christian, but they preach hate and racism. That's not Christian to the majority of Christians in this country. So I think people really are confused about what he really believes. He says he thinks there are many ways to salvation, but that's clearly not a Christian belief. He believes in collective salvation which also isn't part of the Christian religion.

    I believe he's not really that religious at all. I think he went to Rev. Wright's church for political worship more than anything.
    I agree Mellie
    Ann Coulter ( I know how just the mention of her name gets liberal panties in a wad, so couldn't resist) thinks he is an atheist. Maybe she's not far off.

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