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    Re: CNSNews.com Ground Zero Mosque Group Says It Has No Plan to Move Site or Meet Wit

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamaYoMoma View Post
    You obviously donít know what Islam is and naively assume it is like other faith-based religions. Not surprising. However, in stark contrast to faith-based religions, Islam unique in the world is a religion of submission where the freedom of conscience is forbidden under the pain of death and whereby all Muslims must submit to the will of Allah, i.e., Sharia.

    For instance, as an adherent of a faith-based religion I can freely pick and choose what it is I will believe and what it is I will reject, and I can even freely choose to leave the religion if I so desire. However, if I were a Muslim, on the other hand, I have no choice in the matter since in effect Iím a slave of Allah. Hence, if I so much as question the tenets of Islam that would be construed as blasphemy, and blasphemy is a serious offense in Islam that is punished under the pain of death. Furthermore, as a Muslim I wouldnít be able to freely leave the religion of Islam if I so desired, as murtaad (apostasy) is a serious offense under Islam that is likewise punished under the pain of death.

    In Islam, you are either a Muslim, i.e., a slave of Allah, or otherwise you are the infidel, and, of course, if you are the latter then you must be killed.

    But religion isnít all that Islam is. Since with Islam you also get Sharia, as Sharia is intrinsic to Islam, Islam is a very radical form of totalitarianism that seeks world domination as its main goal. Indeed, Sharia institutionalizes systematic persecution and often violent oppression of females and non-Muslims and incorporates draconian punishments such as lashings, stonings, beheadings, and amputations, while forbidding the freedom of conscience, the freedom of speech, and the freedom of religion, at the same time it also mandates death to apostates. In addition, Sharia commands all Muslims to wage offensive jihad for the spread of Islam via the imposition of Sharia, and this mandate to wage jihad for the spread of Islam is the sixth pillar of Islam. Hence, if you take Islam in totality for what it really is, far more than just being a religion alone Islam in fact is a totalitarian theo-political ideology that seeks world subjugation via the imposition of Sharia.

    Therefore, because the obligation to wage jihad in the cause of Allah for the spread of Islam is the sixth pillar of Islam, all devout Muslims that are capable must adhere to that pillar. However, as I previously stated in previous posts, jihad can be both violent and non-violent, stealth, and deceptive, which means it can be as non-violent as just giving zakat or as violent as being a suicide/homicide bomber.

    Finally, the vast overwhelming amount of jihad that takes place in the world today takes place for the most part behind the scenes via non-violent, stealth and deceptive means, and for a good example of stealth and deceptive non-violent jihad in action, letís take a look at Western Europe. In Western Europe wherever mass Muslim immigration is occurring we see the vast overwhelming majority of Muslim immigrants instead of assimilating and integrating like other immigrant groups, forming Muslim no-go zones instead ruled by Sharia in direct contravention to the laws of the states in which they reside. This form of non-violent stealth jihad is known as demographic conquest, and it provides documentation per your request.
    So in other words, to make this much shorter, no, you cannot document your wild claim. Without documentation, they are worthless.
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    Re: CNSNews.com Ground Zero Mosque Group Says It Has No Plan to Move Site or Meet Wit

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Far-rigties: Write this down on a piece of paper and tape it to your bathroom mirror.


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    former Solicitor General under W. His wife died on AA flt. 77 (9/11 Pentagon)

    I think that he deserves the last word on this.
    Like most people at the time, when he wrote or said the above, he obviously still didnít understand and realize what Islam was at the time.

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    Re: CNSNews.com Ground Zero Mosque Group Says It Has No Plan to Move Site or Meet Wit

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So in other words, to make this much shorter, no, you cannot document your wild claim. Without documentation, they are worthless.
    You are a useless waste of time. I fully documented it and all it takes is simple observation to confirm it. Had I known beforehand that you are blind and oblivious to reality, then I wouldn’t have wasted my time.

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    Re: CNSNews.com Ground Zero Mosque Group Says It Has No Plan to Move Site or Meet Wit

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamaYoMoma View Post
    You are a useless waste of time. I fully documented it and all it takes is simple observation to confirm it. Had I known beforehand that you are blind and oblivious to reality, then I wouldnít have wasted my time.
    No you did not, you simply posted a long opinion on what you think Islam is.
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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque Group Says It Has No Plan to Move Site or Meet With N.Y. Gover

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    The U.S. Supreme Court has made no such ruling. Neither has a constitutional amendment been adopted and ratified toward that end. Unless that happens, Islam enjoys the same First Amendment protections as any other religion. Needless to say, nothing in the Constitution prohibits the prosecution of individuals/organizations that are involved in criminal activities, providing material support to terrorists, etc.
    When you take Islam in totality for what it really is, a totalitarian theo-political ideology that seeks to subjugate all unbelievers, all religions, and all governments via the imposition of Sharia as its main goal, then you donít have to be a rocket scientist or need a Supreme Court ruling to figure out that Islam isnít covered under the free exercise clause of the first amendment to the constitution, as Iím sorry our constitution isnít a suicide pact thank you very much.

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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque Group Says It Has No Plan to Move Site or Meet With N.Y. Gover

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamaYoMoma View Post
    When you take Islam in totality for what it really is, a totalitarian theo-political ideology that seeks to subjugate all unbelievers, all religions, and all governments via the imposition of Sharia as its main goal, then you don’t have to be a rocket scientist or need a Supreme Court ruling to figure out that Islam isn’t covered under the free exercise clause of the first amendment to the constitution, as I’m sorry our constitution isn’t a suicide pact thank you very much.
    Again that is in your opinion. In the eyes of the law it is still a religion and that is all that matters.

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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque Group Says It Has No Plan to Move Site or Meet With N.Y. Gover

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamaYoMoma View Post
    When you take Islam in totality for what it really is, a totalitarian theo-political ideology that seeks to subjugate all unbelievers, all religions, and all governments via the imposition of Sharia as its main goal, then you donít have to be a rocket scientist or need a Supreme Court ruling to figure out that Islam isnít covered under the free exercise clause of the first amendment to the constitution, as Iím sorry our constitution isnít a suicide pact thank you very much.
    Your opinion is just that, an opinion. In the eyes of the law(which is what matters), it is a religion. Just because you don't see it as such does not mean much. If it makes you feel better, there is every chance that many Muslims see your religion the same way.
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    Re: CNSNews.com Ground Zero Mosque Group Says It Has No Plan to Move Site or Meet Wit

    Have you ever actually met a Muslim?
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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque Group Says It Has No Plan to Move Site or Meet With N.Y. Gover

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Well many people disagree with you and consider it a religion. And in my eyes it is a religion, but what is it important is that until the U.S. Supreme Court says otherwise it will remain a religion in the eyes of the law.
    Thatís okay. Iím fully aware that the majority of Americans in both political parties at this time are still ignorant with respect to Islam thanks in large port to GWB and the so-called MSM, but more and more people are coming to realize what Islam really is everyday. Indeed, the numbers of people that understand what Islam is today far exceeds what it was just last year. Hence, as time goes by and as Islam continues to insinuate itself into the debate, which is inevitable, eventually the numbers of people that understand what Islam really is will exceed the numbers that still donít have a clue, then at that time Islam will be outlawed and Muslim immigration banned and reversed. Itís only a matter of time.

    But even Sharia Law makes its way here to the U.S. it will not hold any water because it goes against our constitution, so I am not worried about it.
    As I already explained to you, it is already here as Islam and Sharia go hand in hand and you canít have one without the other, as Sharia is intrinsic to Islam. However, at this time the Muslims still canít impose it upon us, but they adhere to it in their own personal lives.

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    Re: Ground Zero Mosque Group Says It Has No Plan to Move Site or Meet With N.Y. Gover

    Quote Originally Posted by goodybags88 View Post
    From the UK I have to say that this looks alot like a storm in a teacup

    It's two blocks from 9-11. It's a private building. It's a multicultural city.

    What's the big problem here?

    UK Politics Forum
    We donít want to end up in the same boat that Europe is in.

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