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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
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    So how long till the ACLU sues the School on "Separation of Church and State" grounds?

    This is just disgusting, a school holding official events based around religion, in the USA? Where we have rules against such!!!

    Double-Standard PC BULL**** was responsible for this outrage.
    And if one of the kids had died because of heat exhaustion? Let me guess.. another dead raghead, so who cares?
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I'm pretty sure it comes out the football budget.
    And where to high school football budgets come from?
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And where to high school football budgets come from?
    Why the concern for electricity at night and not the cost of the football program?

    Football could be played by community teams rather then high school teams, saving taxpayer money
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Why the concern for electricity at night and not the cost of the football program?

    Football could be played by community teams rather then high school teams, saving taxpayer money
    Because I believe interscholastic athletics and other extracurricular activities are a very important part of the educational process...
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And where to high school football budgets come from?
    The taxpayers. But it's not like the taxpayers would be paying extra. It's coming out of the chunk set aside for the football program, and the coach, and the school get to decide on how to use that money for their football team.
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The taxpayers. But it's not like the taxpayers would be paying extra. It's coming out of the chunk set aside for the football program, and the coach, and the school get to decide on how to use that money for their football team.
    Actually, that differs from state to state, district to district and even depending on where the funds are from.

    When I coached soccer, we had two sources of funds... one source was the school district while the other was the boosters. I don't know what the rules were for this school, but as a coach, I did not have the right to decide how all funds would be spend.

    I had to create a budget for the program (pretty detailed too -- thank goodness I actually studied accounting at one point) for the school district funds, a budget that would have to be approved by the school and then the school board. There was little allowance for a major expense (like lights for hours at five practices each week for five hours) that was not budgeted.

    The other source, I would have to ask the boosters and if they had the budget, they could decide to provide the funds or not. They funded the team meals on road trips, for example. We did have an issue with that... A couple of non-Catholic parents complained that on Friday matches during the season (it was Lent) we provided tuna sandwiches rather than other meat to meet Catholic requirements. As it was booster money, they allowed us to get Catholic friendly sandwiches, a decision that was supported by the principal (not that he had a say in the matter). However, had it been public school money, there could have been a problem.
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Why not just hold this pre-season thing before/after Ramadan rather than overnighter sessions which are unsafe and actually go against good health/sports ability common sense?

    I think that by being *so* flexible, here - they are setting their self up for misery when other religions start to come to being popular as our culture becomes more religiously diverse - and they'll find themselves unable to appease all.
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Why not just hold this pre-season thing before/after Ramadan rather than overnighter sessions which are unsafe and actually go against good health/sports ability common sense?

    I think that by being *so* flexible, here - they are setting their self up for misery when other religions start to come to being popular as our culture becomes more religiously diverse - and they'll find themselves unable to appease all.
    The football season will begin before Ramadan ends. Most states (though I don't know about the one we are talking about here) have rules about when practice may occur. Coach-supervised practices are not permitted to begin before a date specified by the governing body for high schools sports in the state.
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Because I believe interscholastic athletics and other extracurricular activities are a very important part of the educational process...
    But having interscholastic activities that do not present a danger to the students, does not introduce religion to anyone, but accomodates the religious needs of a majority of students for a temporary period of time is not ok?
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    But having interscholastic activities that do not present a danger to the students, does not introduce religion to anyone, but accomodates the religious needs of a majority of students for a temporary period of time is not ok?
    not if it results in something as absurd as 11pm-4am football practices...
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