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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

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    For religious reasons. What about the kids that aren't Muslim? Why should they be forced to do this? Do they not matter?
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    I didn't play gridiron football... I played soccer and ran track...
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by GayLibertarian View Post
    Actually a night-time practice due to daytime heat is a logical choice.

    But to change the practice because of Ramadan: absolutely not.

    We live in a pluralistic society (so says the ACLU); absolute Islamists must abide by our "pluralistic" society with *no* handouts, favors or time off.
    And furthermore, who is paying for the lights? The lights have to be on for the five hours of practice for which they would not normally be on were the practices held during the daytime. Running those lights is not cheap by any means. If the taxpayers are footing the bill for the lights to be on during these Ramadan practices, that is absolutely wrong.
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
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    Well, perhaps because he was forced to practice on Good Friday or otherwise during the Paschal Triduum during the baseball season without any considering for his religious beliefs?
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Well, perhaps because he was forced to practice on Good Friday or otherwise during the Paschal Triduum during the baseball season without any considering for his religious beliefs?
    Last time I checked those religious beliefs didn't put him in any danger if he practiced that day.

    Thats the whole point. You can't put kids in danger.
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And furthermore, who is paying for the lights? The lights have to be on for the five hours of practice for which they would not normally be on were the practices held during the daytime. Running those lights is not cheap by any means. If the taxpayers are footing the bill for the lights to be on during these Ramadan practices, that is absolutely wrong.
    I'm pretty sure it comes out the football budget.
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    So how long till the ACLU sues the School on "Separation of Church and State" grounds?
    A lawsuit is unlikely. The coach is accommodating his players' needs, particularly their health. Why should he have to imperil their health or accept a weaker team when there is a way to avoid both of those bad situations?

    It makes good sense to do what he is doing, even if it isn't required, just as it makes good sense for, let's say, a teacher or professor not to schedule exams on Yom Kippur (indeed, in many areas schools are closed on Yom Kippur). There is a difference between accommodating students' needs, even religious ones, and actually partaking in religious activity (disseminating religious materials beyond the extent that is required for learning purposes, holding worship sessions, etc.). The former is acceptable under settled law. The latter is not.

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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I'm pretty sure it comes out the football budget.
    Not that I care deeply about the cost of the lights, but where does the football budget come from?
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Not that I care deeply about the cost of the lights, but where does the football budget come from?
    The taxpayers.
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
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    So how long till the ACLU sues the School on "Separation of Church and State" grounds?

    This is just disgusting, a school holding official events based around religion, in the USA? Where we have rules against such!!!
    This isn't holding an official event based around religion. This is more like serving kosher food, or not planning school events on Sundays.

    In other words, they're not celebrating Allah or being all Muslim, they're eating and drinking according to certain rules. Nobody's being excluded or pressured, they're just scheduling the event to permit the Muslims to participate.

    It's either this or you loose football players, or you get football players passing out cold or worse because they're practicing without the benefit of food or drink.
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