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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Stop whining for God's sake. I don't know the circumstances around your inability to pray before a football game now, but regardless of whether that ban was right or wrong there's obviously nothing wrong with these high school students practicing the way they are.

    Do you really feel the need to take away something from someone else just because something was taken from you? Its childish spite, and worse than that its spite directed at another group entirely innocence and unrelated to whatever stopped you from praying before games. So please grow up.

    This is like tattling on your friend for doing exactly what you were doing just because you were angry you got caught and would feel better if someone else suffered the same treatment for something you obviously didnt think was wrong otherwise you wouldnt be doing it in the first place.
    No, it's the "State" giving preference to a religion in an extra-curricular activity. You live in Az, that's why there is no prayer before a game bud.
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Muslims can't eat or drink anything during the day during Ramadan, does that include water? If it does than it could be a safety hazard to have these kids doing anything physical on empty stomachs, and lacking hydration. Especially during August heat. I don't think this is putting Islam on some greater pedestal than other religions, just may be a safety precaution.
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    There's a fairly significant difference between a team actually conducting an organized prayer on-field and a team agreeing to schedule their practices at times that will allow their players to meet off-field religious obligations.

    This is the equivalent of a team agreeing to practice only mon-sat in order to allow kids to go to church on sunday.
    Not really Right.
    Both are instances of the "state" giving preference to a "religion". And using "state" resources to accommodate said religion. Further more, all it will take is one player to file a lawsuit, claiming he felt intimidated into agreeing to these late night practices for Islam...
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Muslims can't eat or drink anything during the day during Ramadan, does that include water? If it does than it could be a safety hazard to have these kids doing anything physical on empty stomachs, and lacking hydration. Especially during August heat. I don't think this is putting Islam on some greater pedestal than other religions, just may be a safety precaution.
    Rationalizing allowing Religion to affect school decisions. (I know, 2 a days are REALLY rough, and yes, you NEED to drink water. I won't argue that at all)

    Look, I really DON'T care, however it's the double standard that has me ticked off. Could you imagine a school changing Baseball Practice to accommodate Lent? You think there would be all this "understanding and defense" of it? I think not.
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Rationalizing allowing Religion to affect school decisions. (I know, 2 a days are REALLY rough, and yes, you NEED to drink water. I won't argue that at all)

    Look, I really DON'T care, however it's the double standard that has me ticked off. Could you imagine a school changing Baseball Practice to accommodate Lent? You think there would be all this "understanding and defense" of it? I think not.
    Well what are you gonna do? Not have practice? You can't have the kids have practice when they can't drink water, or eat. It's either not have practice, or have practice at night. The school chose to have practice at night.
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    No, it's the "State" giving preference to a religion in an extra-curricular activity. You live in Az, that's why there is no prayer before a game bud.
    No its not the state, its a school board or more likely a single principal and the foot ball coach. This isn't a state or federal policy, its a few local leaders making a decision about how to best accommodate their students and the local people. They are staying out of your way, so stay outta there's.

    Have you considered that by advocating these students should not be allowed to have this kind of practice you are in fact taking the exact same position as those who removed your pre-game pray. You ARE exactly what you hate.

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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Well what are you gonna do? Not have practice? You can't have the kids have practice when they can't drink water, or eat. It's either not have practice, or have practice at night. The school chose to have practice at night.
    For religious reasons. What about the kids that aren't Muslim? Why should they be forced to do this? Do they not matter?
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    No its not the state, its a school board or more likely a single principal and the foot ball coach. This isn't a state or federal policy, its a few local leaders making a decision about how to best accommodate their students and the local people. They are staying out of your way, so stay outta there's.

    Have you considered that by advocating these students should not be allowed to have this kind of practice you are in fact taking the exact same position as those who removed your pre-game pray. You ARE exactly what you hate.
    I'm pointing out hypocrisy, tyvm. And PC craptasticness
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    For religious reasons. What about the kids that aren't Muslim? Why should they be forced to do this? Do they not matter?
    Have practice be optional? I don't know, but you can't have these kids practice during the day.
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    Re: Mich. school practices 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Not really Right.
    Both are instances of the "state" giving preference to a "religion". And using "state" resources to accommodate said religion. Further more, all it will take is one player to file a lawsuit, claiming he felt intimidated into agreeing to these late night practices for Islam...
    How is the state giving preference to a religion or otherwise using state resources to accomodate that religion? Again, how is this any different than choosing not to hold practice on Sundays?
    Last edited by RightinNYC; 08-17-10 at 05:47 AM.
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