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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    If you want an idea of what lack of food regulations looks like go read The Jungle.
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    You could also check out Food, Inc.
    Tax & Spend > Borrow & Spend. But it seems that now we must tax and NOT spend.

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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Because you find out there's a problem when it starts killing people or has other damaging affects, which would granted led to people not buying that product but you still are using citizens as a test bed if there's no agency to monitor food quality. Also you'd have a whole lot of fear in the market that all Chinese products or ALL similar products, even if they aren't from China, are dangerous. Fear is not good for business or good for economics, people need to have confidence in the system which is exactly what government is supposed to do because the average consumer has neither the time nor the education to truly understand everything that affects them in their life, let alone food.

    If you want an idea of what lack of food regulations looks like go read The Jungle.
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    The Jungle is fiction. Upton Sinclair even admitted that he made up most of the horror stories about the meat packing industry.

    The Jungle was, first and foremost, a novel. It was intended to be a polemic—a diatribe, if you will and not a well-researched and dispassionate documentary. Sinclair relied heavily on both his own imagination and on the hearsay of others. He did not even pretend to have actually witnessed the horrendous conditions he ascribed to Chicago packinghouses, nor to have verified them, nor to have derived them from any official records.

    Sinclair hoped the book would ignite a powerful socialist movement on behalf of America’s workers. The public’s attention was directed instead to his fewer than a dozen pages of supposed descriptions of unsanitary conditions in the meatpacking plants. “I aimed at the public’s heart,” he later wrote, “and by accident I hit it in the stomach.”

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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    So apdst are you trying to argue we would be much better off without a USDA? Is that what you are getting at?
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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by R. Shackleferd View Post
    Senate Bill S510 Makes it illegal to Grow, Share, Trade or Sell Homegrown Food |

    "If accepted [S 510] would preclude the public’s right to grow, own, trade, transport, share, feed and eat each and every food that nature makes. It will become the most offensive authority against the cultivation, trade and consumption of food and agricultural products of one’s choice."

    Now that you're scared, here's a link to the actual bill

    S. 510: FDA Food Safety Modernization Act (GovTrack.us)

    I think environmentalists and organic food eating sissies should endorse libertarianism as a way to save their precious homegrown foods. Instead I always hear a lot of "wouldn't it be nice if"'s from environmentalists and organic hippies that fantasize about a big tyrannical state that takes away HFC and Fried Foods and other things that are deemed more dangerous than the expansion of the State. Environmentalists have brought this on themselves. It's time for environmentalists to embrace the free market. San Fransico soda bans and New York salt bans are not done to show support for healthy organic hippie goodness. The state works against EVERYONE. Dismissing everything as some kind of corporate state-capitalist scheme to kill and enslave people with HFC does nothing to protect your organic crops and hippie life style.




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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Jungle is fiction. Upton Sinclair even admitted that he made up most of the horror stories about the meat packing industry.

    Don't allow yourself to get caught up in revisionist history.
    Do you have a less biased source?

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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by R. Shackleferd View Post
    Senate Bill S510 Makes it illegal to Grow, Share, Trade or Sell Homegrown Food |

    "If accepted [S 510] would preclude the public’s right to grow, own, trade, transport, share, feed and eat each and every food that nature makes. It will become the most offensive authority against the cultivation, trade and consumption of food and agricultural products of one’s choice."

    Now that you're scared, here's a link to the actual bill

    S. 510: FDA Food Safety Modernization Act (GovTrack.us)

    I think environmentalists and organic food eating sissies should endorse libertarianism as a way to save their precious homegrown foods. Instead I always hear a lot of "wouldn't it be nice if"'s from environmentalists and organic hippies that fantasize about a big tyrannical state that takes away HFC and Fried Foods and other things that are deemed more dangerous than the expansion of the State. Environmentalists have brought this on themselves. It's time for environmentalists to embrace the free market. San Fransico soda bans and New York salt bans are not done to show support for healthy organic hippie goodness. The state works against EVERYONE. Dismissing everything as some kind of corporate state-capitalist scheme to kill and enslave people with HFC does nothing to protect your organic crops and hippie life style.



    Please post the specific section of the bill that does what you say.

    Jesus, where do these people come from... file this one right next to 'Death Panels'...

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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny View Post
    This bill is wrong on so many levels.
    I doubt it can withstand constitutional scrutiny. It's a property rights issue.
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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I doubt it can withstand constitutional scrutiny. It's a property rights issue.
    does nothing more that elevate the level of scrutiny at the food and drug administration

    after this issue with bad eggs, it's probably a good time to re-examine what is and is not going on there

    it has absolutely NOTHING to do with property rights issues
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    does nothing more that elevate the level of scrutiny at the food and drug administration

    after this issue with bad eggs, it's probably a good time to re-examine what is and is not going on there

    it has absolutely NOTHING to do with property rights issues
    The FDA is a failure and a corrupt organization.
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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The FDA is a failure and a corrupt organization.
    then why would you be opposed to legislation which would improve it
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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