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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    The bill is real.
    It looks to me like it's just more regulations, more paper work, more government intervention to stifle the free market. If it passes costs will necessarily sky rocket. There's nothing I saw that exempts small farmers who sell at farmers markets etc. or those who sell/share with friends and family. Nanny state business as usual.
    What did we do before we had the FDA. Oh, I know. We made sure our food was good and safe because we needed repeat customers. The free market can't work without customers, competetion and a good product.
    I'm sure their are some good ideas in it. However, as with most the crap laws we pass, they wouldn't be necessary if we just ENFORCED the ones we already have.
    I never claimed the bill was not real, what I said was the bill has not, in nearly a year, left committee and does not do what the OP claimed.
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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I have just read the summary of this bill, and nowhere does it say that growing food is illegal. What this bill does is to allow the CDC to track food borne illness, requires inspection of some food items entering our food supply, provides Homeland Security greater ability to track food that has been altered (which terrorists could do), and places greater protection on food that is imported (good idea, considering some of the crap coming from China that would not meet our safety standards.

    All in all, I like this bill. It does provide a measure of protection from tainted, or altered food, and it does NOT prevent ANYONE from growing their own. My only concerns are the cost, and if the Federal Government has the Constitutional authority to do this.
    Amazing, Big Gov Dan and his left leaning friends (those thanking him) like this bill!

    More Gov't Regulating life! Now I did my digging and couldn't find a reliable source to back the wild claims in the OP, nor did the summary contain anything that screamed OMG, however, it was another layer of Bureaucracy to fix... what? MORE food safety? Why not shore up existing programs, regulatory bodies and inspection processes instead of something like this, that creates MORE Gov't?
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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Amazing, Big Gov Dan and his left leaning friends (those thanking him) like this bill!

    More Gov't Regulating life! Now I did my digging and couldn't find a reliable source to back the wild claims in the OP, nor did the summary contain anything that screamed OMG, however, it was another layer of Bureaucracy to fix... what? MORE food safety? Why not shore up existing programs, regulatory bodies and inspection processes instead of something like this, that creates MORE Gov't?
    Yes, big government Dan, who expressed his concern whether the Federal government had jurisdiction, and also expressed concern about how much it would cost. All I did was post how the conclusion of the OP was wrong, and you go off on your personal attack tangent again.

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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I never claimed the bill was not real, what I said was the bill has not, in nearly a year, left committee and does not do what the OP claimed.
    The HC bill and cap and trade bill sat around collecting dust for a long time to.

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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Amazing, Big Gov Dan and his left leaning friends (those thanking him) like this bill!
    in reading the summary, i find that there is nothing in senate bill s510 that makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell home grown food, in contrast to the OP's presentation
    which was a conclusion shared by dan

    More Gov't Regulating life!
    such as telling a woman what she cannot do with her body kind of regulation of one's life? or the telling gay couples that they cannot have legal recognition similar to the marriage of a man and woman; that kind of regulation of someones' lives?
    Now I did my digging and couldn't find a reliable source to back the wild claims in the OP, nor did the summary contain anything that screamed OMG, however, it was another layer of Bureaucracy to fix... what?
    you must have missed the variety of instances when potentially toxic materials were found in food shipments
    you must also think that a terrorist would never use our food supplies as a way to introduce biological agents against us ... so why regulate and monitor it [/sarcasm]
    MORE food safety?
    you would be the FIRST person to whine that Obama failed to protect us if the nation was afflicted by foreign food stuffs, either intentionally or by chance
    Why not shore up existing programs, regulatory bodies and inspection processes instead of something like this, that creates MORE Gov't?
    what new agency does this establish ... or does it actually beef up the systems we now have, by tightening what and how they monitor our food stocks
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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    The HC bill and cap and trade bill sat around collecting dust for a long time to.
    1) Irrelevant
    2) Only even attempts to address part of what I said.

    This thread is based on a lie. Nothing more.
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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The source is a conspiracy nut blog, the bill has languished in committee for a year with almost no action, and it does not do what the blog claims. Now that is impressive.
    So presumably you have read the Bill in it's entirety?

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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We gotta get rid of them Liberals. Some of us saw this tyranny heading our way. It'll be a great day in this country when everyone can see it.
    Yes we HAVE TO. Otherwise my queen Michelle Obama won't be able to keep growing vegetables in the White House garden and the Veggie Army will come out and steal my topsy turvy!!!

    Seriously you guys you need to think this through before you start posting. This bill doesn't even fit your stereotype of these hippy liberal kids that are all about growing their own "crop". Why would they want to take our right to grow food ourselves and why in the hell would the government ever bother with checking food at a roadside stand?
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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    My point is, that just because it isn't in the summary, doesn't mean it isn't in the bill. Your attempt to prove a negative was a predictable failure.

    oh, yeah...LOL
    OK smart guy: here's THE BILL - full text. I did a very thorough once over on it, and NOWHERE did I see it mention private food production at all, much less regulate it. So...read it and get back to us when you find the smoking gun...

    Oh...and the rest of you wringing your hands about this: are you really so brainwashed as to think that your local law enforcement officers, much less FDA of DHS agents are going to waste the manpower to sweep through neighborhoods looking for contraband tomato plants just so that Dick Durbin can make sure Monsanto controls all of the food production in America?



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    Re: senate bill s510 makes it illegal to grow, share, trade or sell hoemgrown food.

    Quote Originally Posted by R. Shackleferd View Post
    As for imported food, why can't the free market decide that produce from China isn't good enough for them?
    Because you find out there's a problem when it starts killing people or has other damaging affects, which would granted led to people not buying that product but you still are using citizens as a test bed if there's no agency to monitor food quality. Also you'd have a whole lot of fear in the market that all Chinese products or ALL similar products, even if they aren't from China, are dangerous. Fear is not good for business or good for economics, people need to have confidence in the system which is exactly what government is supposed to do because the average consumer has neither the time nor the education to truly understand everything that affects them in their life, let alone food.

    If you want an idea of what lack of food regulations looks like go read The Jungle.
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