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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    They are not property owners. It is a PUBLIC university funded FEDERALLY with PUBLIC funds and therefore PUBLIC property. Like I said I don't care for the guy, but the fact that he was arressted on public property, well within his constitutional right bothers me.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    As a property owners, they have the complete right to kick this guy out and have him arrested for trespassing. There is a difference between the government making you obey some stupid, unconstitutional "free speech zone" rules and someone not letting you trespass, which this guy was doing. This guy, who isn't a student, is a self-righteous douchebag, and I don't feel sorry for him.

    However, this does bring up a good point. It is troubling how people on college campuses are often the victims of asinine, hyper-pc, restrictive speech codes. They are private institutions who should be allowed to make their own rules, but they are also supposed to be centers of free discourse. What someone finds offensive should be up to the individual, not the institution.

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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    No, but you have the right to stand on the public curb outside of my house and do the same thing.

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    SO I should have the right to come to your house...unannounced, and stand there with a bullhorn and say whatever I want...on your lawn...for a s long as I want, to whoever I want?

    Reiterate...he was not a student of the UT. He IS a professional agitator. they were on the UT grounds protesting on a day when they knew they would have lots of people there. He refused to move 100 yards to public property. It wasnt about any 'free speech zones'. Start with that.

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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    I'm really baffled that some of you (even a libertarian :0 ) don't understand that a public university is PUBLIC property. It is NOT private property. It is NOT owned by the administrators. It is NOT owned by the police. Though I don't care for John Bush or his views, he had a right to stand there on PUBLIC property and express his opinions.

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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightwingnutjob View Post
    I'm really baffled that some of you (even a libertarian :0 ) don't understand that a public university is PUBLIC property. It is NOT private property. It is NOT owned by the administrators. It is NOT owned by the police. Though I don't care for John Bush or his views, he had a right to stand there on PUBLIC property and express his opinions.
    he had as much right to do that on that PUBLIC campus as you have to distribute near-porno at your nearby PUBLIC elementary school
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightwingnutjob View Post
    It was a PUBLIC university. It was PUBLIC property. Therefore he had every right to be there. If this had occurred at a PRIVATE university on PRIVATE property, then sure I would have no problem. If people want to protest at a public high school, middle school etc., then go for it. Who's old enough to care or listen besides the 100 faculty?



    I've never heard of trespassing on public property :^/
    really? you think you have a right to walk onto any public elementary school campus and conduct your personal business?


    how about the FBI building ... it's public. why should you not be able to gain immediate access there, too
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    he had as much right to do that on that PUBLIC campus as you have to distribute near-porno at your nearby PUBLIC elementary school
    Completely different. Lets stick with apples and leave oranges out of this.

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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightwingnutjob View Post
    Completely different. Lets stick with apples and leave oranges out of this.
    nope. both are PUBLICLY owned and operated facilities
    it speaks right to your example
    and destroys it
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    really? you think you have a right to walk onto any public elementary school campus and conduct your personal business?


    how about the FBI building ... it's public. why should you not be able to gain immediate access there, too
    You have your rights so long as you don't infring on another's rights or safety. Having everybody poking around an FBI building could compromise a lot of people safety. Again, stick with apples and leave other fruits out of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    nope. both are PUBLICLY owned and operated facilities
    it speaks right to your example
    and destroys it
    One deals with explicit material and children. The other deals with material a child could see on a PUBLIC campus comprised of adults. Completely different.

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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightwingnutjob View Post
    One deals with explicit material and children. The other deals with material a child could see on a PUBLIC campus comprised of adults. Completely different.
    exactly on target
    both are public facilities on public property
    just as you do not get to openly distribute near-porno on a public college campus quad
    neither do you on a public elementary school playground
    just as you do not get to create unsanctioned public assemblies on the public college campus
    neither do you get to on a public elementary school campus
    the only difference is the age of the students and the curriculum being taught
    but try again ... i enjoy the easy target practice
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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