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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin



    This John Bush looks a lot like THIS John Bush...who was arrested in 2005 for being drunk and going up to Austin police and bitching them out for arresting his friends...

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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    It's becoming popular in western nations to have free speech zones during big events, like the G20 or olympics. It really sickens me.

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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    It's becoming popular in western nations to have free speech zones during big events, like the G20 or olympics. It really sickens me.
    It's what we get for letting the courts change the definition of the words in the Constitution to be whatever they want them to mean.

    We still have "free speech"..... nobody is chargeing us for any words.
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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    It's what we get for letting the courts change the definition of the words in the Constitution to be whatever they want them to mean.

    We still have "free speech"..... nobody is chargeing us for any words.
    That has nothing to do with it. Big protests in major cities have required permits for a long time for real public safety reasons, but it's quite another thing to deny individuals the right to protest at will unless they are in free speech zones.

    The reason why it's still happening is because people are just sitting back and taking it. Not enough people are willing to stand up and reaffirm their rights to their governments, so their governments will just keep getting bolder and bolder. The Constitution doesn't mean anything if citizens don't fight for its recognition.

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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    That has nothing to do with it. Big protests in major cities have required permits for a long time for real public safety reasons, but it's quite another thing to deny individuals the right to protest at will unless they are in free speech zones.

    The reason why it's still happening is because people are just sitting back and taking it. Not enough people are willing to stand up and reaffirm their rights to their governments, so their governments will just keep getting bolder and bolder. The Constitution doesn't mean anything if citizens don't fight for its recognition.
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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    As a property owners, they have the complete right to kick this guy out and have him arrested for trespassing. There is a difference between the government making you obey some stupid, unconstitutional "free speech zone" rules and someone not letting you trespass, which this guy was doing. This guy, who isn't a student, is a self-righteous douchebag, and I don't feel sorry for him.

    However, this does bring up a good point. It is troubling how people on college campuses are often the victims of asinine, hyper-pc, restrictive speech codes. They are private institutions who should be allowed to make their own rules, but they are also supposed to be centers of free discourse. What someone finds offensive should be up to the individual, not the institution.
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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    This is nothing new. When I was in college 15 years ago, we had a free expression area where demonstrations were limited to in order to not disrupt classes.

    However, our actual speech was never curbed. We could still say what we wanted anywhere on campus at any time. It looks like this campus has a similar policy...demonstrations in one area, free speech everywhere.
    I think there policy also restricts handing out fliers.
    It has to be done in the "free speech zone" and people have to ask for them.

    That was the old policy, I believe they eventually changed it.

    The problem I have is that as long as you aren't interrupting classes and movement of teachers/students, you should be able to stand anywhere, handing out fliers to anyone.

    It is an institution that is state and federally funded, they must abide by the Constitution.
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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    As a property owners, they have the complete right to kick this guy out and have him arrested for trespassing. There is a difference between the government making you obey some stupid, unconstitutional "free speech zone" rules and someone not letting you trespass, which this guy was doing. This guy, who isn't a student, is a self-righteous douchebag, and I don't feel sorry for him.

    However, this does bring up a good point. It is troubling how people on college campuses are often the victims of asinine, hyper-pc, restrictive speech codes. They are private institutions who should be allowed to make their own rules, but they are also supposed to be centers of free discourse. What someone finds offensive should be up to the individual, not the institution.
    If they are completely privately owned and take no public funds, then yes, they have a right to limit who enters their property, who can say what, and who can say it where. If they take one single penny of public funds, the 1st amendment rules.

    Free speech zones anywhere on public property violates the 1st amendment.... I can see the need for a permit to hold a rally, protest, etc. but the permit has to be free, and it has to be issued immediately, or it violates our rights under the Constitution.

    BTW....... It's our right to "freedom of speech", not "free speech".

    BTW 2.…. The first amendment only restricts Congress from passing laws that restrict Freedom of speech….. It says nothing about the States.
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    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    It's what we get for letting the courts change the definition of the words in the Constitution to be whatever they want them to mean.

    We still have "free speech"..... nobody is chargeing us for any words.
    SO I should have the right to come to your house...unannounced, and stand there with a bullhorn and say whatever I want...on your lawn...for a s long as I want, to whoever I want?

    Reiterate...he was not a student of the UT. He IS a professional agitator. they were on the UT grounds protesting on a day when they knew they would have lots of people there. He refused to move 100 yards to public property. It wasnt about any 'free speech zones'. Start with that.

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