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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    damn, i thought it was mostly hyperbole about rights being stripped away, but ****, this is ludicrous.
    "VSU's previous policy restricted the free expression of all "persons wishing to speak on campus" to one small stage, the use of which was restricted to two non-consecutive hours per day-and only on weekdays."

    Valdosta State University: Freedom of Expression on Campus Limited to Unconstitutional Free Speech Zone - FIRE

    The free speech zone compromises (I think) less than 1% of the entire campus.
    Insanity.
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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Hell, I don't agree with what he was saying anyway, but it's completely disgusting and disturbing that they thought they could arrest him and remove him from campus.

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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    It's only going to get worse.
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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    "VSU's previous policy restricted the free expression of all "persons wishing to speak on campus" to one small stage, the use of which was restricted to two non-consecutive hours per day-and only on weekdays."

    Valdosta State University: Freedom of Expression on Campus Limited to Unconstitutional Free Speech Zone - FIRE

    The free speech zone compromises (I think) less than 1% of the entire campus.
    Insanity.
    i just can't see how, from this
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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    The existence of free speech zones is based on U.S. court decisions stipulating that the government may regulate the time, place, and manner—but not content—of expression.
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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    free speech zones, ain't that a violation of your Bill of Rights?
    Absolutely not........ I haven't seen any evidence that anyone has had to pay one thin dime to say what they wanted to say.

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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    "VSU's previous policy restricted the free expression of all "persons wishing to speak on campus" to one small stage, the use of which was restricted to two non-consecutive hours per day-and only on weekdays."

    Valdosta State University: Freedom of Expression on Campus Limited to Unconstitutional Free Speech Zone - FIRE

    The free speech zone compromises (I think) less than 1% of the entire campus.
    Insanity.
    This is nothing new. When I was in college 15 years ago, we had a free expression area where demonstrations were limited to in order to not disrupt classes.

    However, our actual speech was never curbed. We could still say what we wanted anywhere on campus at any time. It looks like this campus has a similar policy...demonstrations in one area, free speech everywhere.

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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    As usual, there is more to the story then the edited version they want you to see on UTube.

    Doood was arrested because he was NOT a student of UT and was protesting on campus. The school board of trustees representative and the police both asked him 3 times politely to take their protest 100 yards to MLK blvd on public land and then by all means carry on. This was far from just a bunch of students having a discussion (see the link attached). http://www.blip.tv/file/3998011\ John Bush is a professional political agitator. And he did what he do...he agitated. So...he got removed.

    Think about this logically and not emotionally for a second. Can you walk onto any public school property and start protesting freely without getting arrested? Of course not. And even on public lands when you have a planned assembly you have to file for permits.

    As a libertarian I find his actions repugnant. And BTW...read a little about doood...and watch some of his videos. He's a shameless self-promoting asshole.

    He lied about his press credentials. He lied about his intent. And when asked to leave...politely...3 times...he was finally arrested and removed. Yay.

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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    This is nothing new. When I was in college 15 years ago, we had a free expression area where demonstrations were limited to in order to not disrupt classes.

    However, our actual speech was never curbed. We could still say what we wanted anywhere on campus at any time. It looks like this campus has a similar policy...demonstrations in one area, free speech everywhere.
    Difference being...you were a student. This guy is not. He is a political agitator. He travels the country doing this kind of crap.

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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    his right to free speech does not trump the property owner's right to determine what activities do or do not occur on its property

    which is why he was arrested for trespassing

    he possesses the right of free speech
    he possesses the right to assemble
    but not if the property owner where he plans to present his speech or create an assembly says otherwise
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    Re: John Bush Arrested For Protesting Outside Free Speech Zone At U.T. Austin

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    his right to free speech does not trump the property owner's right to determine what activities do or do not occur on its property

    which is why he was arrested for trespassing

    he possesses the right of free speech
    he possesses the right to assemble
    but not if the property owner where he plans to present his speech or create an assembly says otherwise
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