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GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

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See, what is pissing me off, is the fact that you ignore that I'm in favor of spending changes.

You just play off stereotypes that I "Loooooove" taxes and spending. I want spending changed. We need to cut spending from inefficient programs. I totally support that. But from your responses to my posts, you typecast me in one way that I am not. Spending habits of government must be changed. Only those programs that work should be funded.

I think tax rates should be based on the contributions you make to the economy overall.

So sorry that I want to improve things for everyone and not just the top 1%.

as long as dem politicians promise a ton of voters that all funding that is needed will be paid for by more and more tax hikes on "the rich" those voters will never have any reason to support spending cuts
 
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as long as dem politicians promise a ton of voters that all funding that is needed will be paid for by more and more tax hikes on "the rich" those voters will never have any reason to support spending cuts

Who calls it a tax hike?
 
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as long as dem politicians promise a ton of voters that all funding that is needed will be paid for by more and more tax hikes on "the rich" those voters will never have any reason to support spending cuts

You forget the f'ing fact that the economy got along just fine with the rates before Bush. He CUT taxes at the same time that he started to multi-trillion dollar wars. I know it's easy for you partisan types to overlook that, but I won't.

I'm just afraid that if Republicans get back power, they'll revert to their "borrow-and-spend" ways.
 
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Oh, that's adorable.

Someone's trying to convince us that the *deficit* is cause by a *lack of taxes*
When really - all educated people know - that the deficit is caused by excessive government spending.

But I guess that's just a technical - a minute detail - when it comes to the world of political partisan hackery. Truly, I'm tired of people trying to drag me into the Democrat party with this kind of bull****.
 
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You forget the f'ing fact that the economy got along just fine with the rates before Bush.

Funny, I've necver seen anyone call a recession "just fine" before. By that standard, today's economy must be DANDY!

He CUT taxes at the same time that he started to multi-trillion dollar wars. I know it's easy for you partisan types to overlook that, but I won't.

But you will overlook the fact that Bush created a brand new unconstitutional entitlement and did nothing to cut spending on all the other unconstitutional nonsense the federal government is still wasting money on, and naturally, it's the unconstitutional spending that's seiving the defici. It is, after all, illegal.
 
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Funny, I've necver seen anyone call a recession "just fine" before. By that standard, today's economy must be DANDY!



But you will overlook the fact that Bush created a brand new unconstitutional entitlement and did nothing to cut spending on all the other unconstitutional nonsense the federal government is still wasting money on, and naturally, it's the unconstitutional spending that's seiving the defici. It is, after all, illegal.

Amazing what kids are learning in school these days
 
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You forget the f'ing fact that the economy got along just fine with the rates before Bush. He CUT taxes at the same time that he started to multi-trillion dollar wars. I know it's easy for you partisan types to overlook that, but I won't.

I'm just afraid that if Republicans get back power, they'll revert to their "borrow-and-spend" ways.

You mean like right now when Obama with a Democrat Congress has added 3 trillion to the debt. I am sure there is no borrowing and spending now, right?
 
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What I find it amazing is that someone could ask me this in the same post that they have this to say” Do you realize how foolish your statement is “. Its been shown to you many times over this thread and other threads, still you keep repeating the RNC line. If you want to look a fool in the eye, take a close look at the one looking back at you the next time you shave. :2wave:



I already did, in the post that you quoted. Here’s a hint, its hid under the capital letters (TEFRA).:roll:

You have shown me that taking money from the rich has helped the middle class? I must have missed that post and apologize. Please re-post so that I can give you proper credit. You think TEFRA benefited the middle class? Please explain how
 
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Who calls it a tax hike?

mostly those who have to pay it

libs tend not to-they tend to lie about alot of things
 
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You forget the f'ing fact that the economy got along just fine with the rates before Bush. He CUT taxes at the same time that he started to multi-trillion dollar wars. I know it's easy for you partisan types to overlook that, but I won't.

I'm just afraid that if Republicans get back power, they'll revert to their "borrow-and-spend" ways.

your understanding of cause and effect is rather suspect. The economy was great when Bush came into office? LOL

why do the welfare socialists always want someone else to have to sacrifice for what you all call the greater good?
 
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Oh, that's adorable.

Someone's trying to convince us that the *deficit* is cause by a *lack of taxes*
When really - all educated people know - that the deficit is caused by excessive government spending.

But I guess that's just a technical - a minute detail - when it comes to the world of political partisan hackery. Truly, I'm tired of people trying to drag me into the Democrat party with this kind of bull****.

libs gain power and feel good about raising taxes. They feel good and gain power by redistributing income. Cutting government spending cuts the source of power for rich liberals.
 
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If the tax rates go up, it's a tax hike.

Not complicated.

its rather obvious to anyone with a general understanding of reality
 
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I'm just afraid that if Republicans get back power, they'll revert to their "borrow-and-spend" ways.
Hm..
Given the out-of-control nature of The Obama's debt machine, how would you characterize His 'and spend' ways?
 
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Please tell me why Paul Krugman is credible to you?

Why not respond to the article posted? instead of attacking the messenger.
 
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I'm well aware of what a tax shelter is, I'm asking you how you think they affect the numbers. As I stated already, you seem to be vastly overestimating their significance. Just shouting "THE RICH USE TAX SHELTERS OH NOES" doesn't really prove anything.

Didn't you get the memo?

The reason poor people are poor is because rich people are rich and they use tax shelters.
 
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Paul Krugman's wry sense of humor on the subject:

Tax Cut Truthiness - Paul Krugman Blog - NYTimes.com

Got to love that liberal humor especially when that liberal tries to re-write history. Bush took over in a recession and then had that "little" national disaster called 9/11. Now of course that was left out of the discussion. Then Bush had a Democrat controlled Congress from 2007-2008. I find it quite interesting that the Democrat controlled Congress "let" Bush lead us into a recession unless...................hmmmm, I just wonder? Wasn't there an election in 2008 and couldn't Democrats get their cult followers to blame that recession on Bush? Just saying!
 
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Didn't you get the memo?

The reason poor people are poor is because rich people are rich and they use tax shelters.

Sure makes me feel guilty, I had no idea that the money I earned over my career came at the expense of the poor and that by not paying what liberals thought I should pay in taxes that I was creating more poor people. I'm sorry!
 
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Sure makes me feel guilty, I had no idea that the money I earned over my career came at the expense of the poor and that by not paying what liberals thought I should pay in taxes that I was creating more poor people. I'm sorry!

"Most economic fallacies derive from the tendency to assume that there is a fixed pie, that one party can gain only at the expense of another."

-Milton Friedman
 
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You saw the name, but didn't look at the graphs.

This is one of the links he gave, the graphs there are striking.

Matthew Yglesias » Bush Tax Cuts: Where Was the Growth?

They're also fairly common sense - if equities and economic growth were vastly overinflated during the dot com boom, why wouldn't the immediate-term numbers be higher?

The fact that pets.com employees took home $200k in stock options in 1999 does not mean that the fundamentals of the economy were pristine.
 
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